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Charlie Crist says ‘I’ll just go there,’ plays race card again in explaining party switch

by George Bennett | May 7th, 2014

Crist: GOP treatment of "the African-American president" was "a big reason" he left party.

Republican-turned-independent-turned Democrat Charlie Crist denied he left the GOP because he was trailing Marco Rubio in a 2010 Senate primary and said “a big reason” he bolted was the way some Republicans treated “the African-American president.”

Crist’s remarks in an interview with Fusion TV’s Jorge Ramos echo his claims to Stephen Colbert in February that his infamous Fort Myers stimulus hug of President Barack Obama angered GOP activists in part because Obama “was a Democrat, but not just a Democrat, an African-American.”

Then-Republican Crist was initially the frontrunner for the party’s 2010 Senate nomination, but fell far behind Rubio and left the party to become an independent in 2010. He became a Democrat in December 2012.

“You left the Republican Party because you were going to lose to Marco Rubio,” Ramos said.

Crist said he left because the party’s leadership “went off the cliff” and “I couldn’t be consistent with myself and my core beliefs, and stay with a party that was so unfriendly toward the African-American president, I’ll just go there.”

He referred again to “the African-American president” and said the way “some” in the party treated Obama was “a big reason” he left the GOP.

RNC spokesman Izzy Santa responded to Crist’s remarks in an e-mail to Fusion: “Being a flip-flopper is bad enough, but playing the race card to win over voters is pitiful.”

63 Responses to “Charlie Crist says ‘I’ll just go there,’ plays race card again in explaining party switch”

  1. Sid Dinerstein Says:

    So let me get this right.
    The racist Republicans booted out the White Christian Charlie Crist so they could elect the Hispanic Marco Rubio.
    I get it.

  2. Sarah Mom Says:

    Everyone knows that if Charlie Crist had beaten Marco Rubio in the primary in 2010, he would still be a Republican and not have a problem with the party. He left simply because he was not going to win. Its call political expediency.

  3. JANICE Says:

    How desperate can this man be? Republicans disagree with Obama’s policies. Democrats disagreed with Bush’s and Reagan’s policies. To spew this sort of rhetoric is totally irresponsible. This self-serving, flip-flopping politician shouldn’t hold any office, any where, any time. I thought Charlie Crist had some personal moral code, I knew he had no political code, moral or otherwise.

  4. One Day Says:

    One day I hope that all Republicans see the light that their party is the party of closed minded greed. That you are tools of the rich who have convinced you to vote against your best interest and the best interest of our country. The Koch brothers and their ilk (Fox News, Rush, Trump etc.) hide behind the flag and the bible to further their own economic agenda. We need more people to abandon the GOP and think for themselves. The GOP is the party of closed minded greed and unnecessary war. We need more people to abandon them and register to another party, preferably independent.

  5. npgator Says:

    One Day Says – I see that you have your recited, robotic, liberal talking points down! If you believe a single word of what you just wrote then you are a complete moron. Anyone who votes for Crist is a complete moron.

  6. One Day Says:

    I will take a complete moron over the evilness of a corrupt businessman who is using Florida as a piggy bank for him and his friends. He sold us to the home insurance companies, car insurance companies, and the utility companies. You are a tool for the wealthy who laugh at you for giving them more and more tax breaks. Fools.

  7. Marie Hunt Says:

    @npgator, it’s unfortunate that your only response to a logical argument for why Crist would switch parties is to degrade the opposing view’s obvious intelligence. The truth is, One Day brings up a good point. As a woman who lives paycheck to paycheck, I very carefully watch what decisions are being made and by whom. The fact that the GOP continually refuses to pay women equal pay for equal work does not inspire me to vote for them. The fact that Rick Scott has cut so much funding in Florida that we have a surplus, and he is refusing to put that money back into Florida does not make me want to vote to reelect him. The fact that Charlie Crist recognized the direction in which his party was headed, and chose to take the most unpopular stand against government any politician can take and actually switch to another party rather than be bullied into compromising his personal beliefs… that is a decision that I can respect. Let’s not forget, Florida wasn’t doing too poorly when he was in charge last time, increasing K-12 education, regulating property insurance rates, keeping Florida affordable for the average person… a Republican by today’s standards would not be able to do what he did at that time. I’d rather vote for someone based on their voting history, regardless of which party they belong to.

  8. Rev Jim Says:

    If the Dem’s don’t find someone that cares more about Floridians than about their own political future, Rich Scott will get four more years to exploit his authority while claiming credit for the recovering economy.

  9. timtopper Says:

    “I will take a complete moron over the evilness of a corrupt businessman who is using Florida as a piggy bank for him and his friends. He sold us to the home insurance companies, car insurance companies, and the utility companies.”

    One Day is absolutely correct. When scott was under oath and being questioned about his part in the largest medicare fraud ever committed, he took the 5th over 70 times. He also acted dumber then a rock when asked simple questions. The entire video of his deposition is posted on youtube. I challenge any scott supporter to watch it, then report back on how you still feel about scott.

    People change political parties all the time, so what and who cares? Crist never purposely acted in a manner to harm the average citizen. Scott, meanwhile has picked out pockets in order to enrich the check books of his friends in the insurance industry; Citizens, and the auto-insurance companies. He has cost us untold millions in tax payer funds wasted in order to defend his crazy legislative ideas, all so far have been struck down by the courts, and more will soon follow.

    Stop thinking “party line” and start to think objectively. Who will do the least harm to Florida’s hard working citizens? Who will actually provide the most benefit to Florida? And who will not continue to loot the taxpayers if elected? Crist is the only name that comes to mind.

    Give scott a one way bus ticket out of Tallahassee.

  10. J Tomanelli Says:

    Has anyone noticed that when Charlie Crist speaks, there is a slight echo? Do you know why? He speaks from both ends of the Alimentary Canal at the same time.

  11. gilbfla Says:

    I am center left. I will prob vote crist. to above post I am moron. so be it. state capitol is unbalanced with all reps/ courts / governor all right and hard right. after all our capitol is only a few miles from Alabama and Georgia. Crist has a better chance to win / he is more of a deal maker and that’s what we need now. he is also a survivor and does what he must to succeed. Sure he flip flops but that’s what politicians are suppose to do weather you like it or not to get things done. SIDE NOTE: LETS SPLIT THE STATE IN TWO. N. Fla & S. Fla we get tampa they get Orlando and new S.Fla capitol in like sebring or Lakeland. we think differently down here than people from Alabama, Mississippi and Georgia.51st state. maybe keys will be 52

  12. ted Says:

    @mariehunt, blaming the rebus about equal pay is total BS, ask the White House staff who gets more pay in that building! Not putting money back into Florida, BS, ask the teachers who got them their last raise, the existing Gov. Crist didn’t lower RE taxes the values of homes and appraisals went off the cliff. Get your head out of your arse and see the truth, it will set you free from the FLIP FLOPPER!

  13. ted Says:

    @mariehunt what about this?
    By Donna Gehrke-White, Sun Sentinel
    5:43 a.m. EDT, May 7, 2014

    Pay in South Florida is rising faster than the national average.

    Wages in Broward, Palm Beach and Miami-Dade counties grew 2.3 percent in the year ending March 31, compared with 1.7 percent nationally, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported Tuesday.

    South Florida’s yearly pay increase was higher than that in 11 other metro areas that BLS surveyed, including the New York, Boston, Washington, Chicago and Los Angeles areas. The Atlanta metro area had the lowest annual increase of 0.7 percent, the agency found.

    Only three metro areas had more of a yearly wage increase than South Florida’s: San Francisco, 3.4 percent; Dallas, 2.7 percent; and Houston, 2.4 percent.

    Total compensation in South Florida, including pay and benefits such as health insurance, rose only 1.7 percent in a year, largely because benefits did not increase as much as wages, said BLS economist Timothy Ewing.

  14. Hype and Chains Says:

    This man is a real politician. His only flaw is you can tell when he spews out crap. Which with most politicians it’s 100% of the time.

    Charlie should find a gay lover and crawl back into his cave.

  15. Isn'tLifeBeachy Says:

    Are these our ONLY 2 candidates? A scoundrel Rick Scott or a race baiting, party hopping, political ponzu Christ?? God help us. We are in desperate need of a NEW party. A happy median between the 2. These democraps and rethulicans are outdated. Both candidates are tainted with corruption.

  16. Alex Says:

    It’s very clear that racism is a rallying point for many among the underbelly of the GOPs base. Frankly, anyone who would disagree with this is either not tuned-in, or flat-out lying.

    I said to several people when Obama was elected that we’d get to see the true hearts of friends, family and acquaintances regarding race over the next four years and I was correct.

    Hard economic times added to this, with poor whites competing with poor afro-Americans and Hispanics for jobs and benefits.

    Add to that the cry-baby boomer veterans who “served” and will be the first to loudly let you know, having hissy fits over their “rights” to collect benefits they would deny others. In other words, give me mine, and screw the other guy. Nice.

    Question is, once his terms are over and he seques back into private life, will this hatred continue, or will they find another “cause”? Can’t wait. /sarcasm

  17. Alex Says:

    I support Charlie Crist. He is not a “flip-flopper”. He is a thoughtful man who saw what was wrong and had the courage to buck the party line and change, going with his principles instead. We need more like Mr. Crist in government. Party-line adherence is a major flaw in our system. There are those who will always blindly follow, and those who will think, step out of the loop and lead with courage and dignity. Charlie Crist is a fine example of the latter. GOP intransigence is foolish and cowardly. Period.

  18. justmeee Says:

    Somebody tell Izzy Santa that’s what pitiful is using the expression, “playing the race card.”

  19. TrafficAvenger Says:

    I will gladly take Mr. Crist over Gov. Scott any day of the week. As it is.

    Scott should be doing time for the medicaid fraud that he allowed to occur during his time as C.E.O. of the hospital chain that plead guilty to 14 federal felonies and paid fines and settlements of over $2 BILLION DOLLARS for a medicaid fraud that cost the government and taxpayers $1.7 billion dollars.

    Call Mr. Crist what you want, flip flopper or whatever. The facts are. Mr. Crist did not have a hand in the largest medicaid fraud of the nation at that time or sat in a video deposition looking like a fool who could or would not, answer basic questions of law that a first year law student could of answered.

    Mr. Scott is a defrauder of the public’s trust and resources and the G.O.P. is the hypocrisy of politics that has gone out of their way to protect the profit margins of corporations at the expense of the middle class taxpayer every chance they have gotten.

    To think any different would be denial on your part.

    As Always,
    Have A Great Day.

  20. Bob le flambeur Says:

    Seriously Florida you need to wake up. Rick Scott is one corrupt individual running the state as if it was one of his fraudulent enterprises. If Crist is elected more will be uncovered, enough to put Scott in a federal prison.

  21. Alex Says:

    Boom. There it is. “Hype and Chains” chimes in with the pure hatred and disregard for human rights that has become the bellwether of the modern GOP.

    Dude, homosexuals are people. African-Americans and others unlike you are people. Citizens. They have the same rights you do. Many are frankly better people than you seem to be.

    And? There are a LOT of them. They have come of age, and they will increasingly marginalize your party’s hateful platform until you all are left alone and behind, gathering in small groups, wondering what happened to “your” country.

    Your causes are dead. Your ways are dead. Your twisted views on others are dead. And your Party is next. Bye!

    (I realize this is too many words for you. But try hard, you’ll get through it, and then you can cherry-pick it apart and turn our words around with shallow epithets and viewpoints regurgitated from what you see and hear on Fox and Rush.)

  22. Marie Hunt Says:

    @ted: April 9, 2014, Senate GOP unanimously blocked paycheck fairness for the THIRD time. The White House is one employer, which means the majority of the working population can freely experience discrimination. In 2011, Federal Stimulus Funding for education expired and Scott refused to replenish the $800M+ funds from Florida’s taxes, nor would he request an extension. Instead, he cut the budget an additional $200M. There were other funding issues, but the education budget was decreased about $1 billion in 2011. In that time since, the population has increased, and the already limited budget has had to be spread even more thinly. True, this year Scott was able to give teacher raises, but considering $480M is less than half of what was cut, and that is to cover every school district in the state. So the raises were only 2%-4% of their salary, barely enough to cover the cost of living increases that have taken place from 2011 until now. And the upcoming budget only adds another $174M to education, so we are still behind in funding from 2010. As for the RE taxes, I didn’t say Crist lowered them, I said he regulated property insurance rates, so that those of us who were financially responsible and purchased homes for an affordable amount could have affordable mortgage payments. Since Scott has taken office, my property insurance has increased so much that it is more than half of my mortgage payment, and it continues to increase. Between unequal pay, lack of funding, and increased property insurance rates, I am at risk of having to sell my home because this governor has made decisions that have directly affected my circumstances. The truth is very clear to me, I would rather vote for a “Flip Flopper” whose track record was in my favor than someone who scammed the system, lined his own pockets, and is ensuring his friends in high places remain comfortable.

  23. TankGrl Says:

    @One day, not worth responding to you. You’re too brainwashed!
    @ Marie Hunt you lost your credibility with your rhetoric about the GOP continually refuses to pay women equal pay for equal work. Last time I heard the Obama Administration is guilty of this! BTW just think of the mistakes that you have made in your life that have made you live paycheck to paycheck.
    Rick Scott is just like every other politician, corrupt! Charlie Christ is just like every other politician, corrupt! Wake Florida the government does not care about you! If the government cared about blacks they would not live in ghettos!

  24. Marie Hunt Says:

    @Ted: I’m interested in that article, thanks for sharing… too bad they didn’t get more into where the increases came from. I’m sure the aforementioned teacher salary increases helped, but I would like to know where else the increases took place. It’s a shame, I remember when not long ago a 2%-3% raise was a standard cost of living increase. Now we’re being giving accolades for being above the national average. Hopefully this will keep up and we are moving in the right direction.

  25. Joe Says:

    During the last 2 presidential elections when asked I would tell my friends that I was voting for Obama. Several of them would question my choice and remind me that he was black. I’m certain that racism against black people is a powerful force and quite prevalent in the Hispanic community as well Sid Dinerstein. The famous hug photo was in fact used as an effective tool by the Republican Party and the campaign of Marco Rubio to rally the racist element to vote the moderate Charlie Christ out of office. I have no doubt Charlie’s switch to independent was done to allow him to run in the general election after the right wing republicans kicked him to the curb in the primary. The reason Kendrick Meeks lost was because Charlie siphoned most of the Democrat votes away from him. So his statement that racism in the Republican Party was a factor in his decision to switch based on that photo being effective is certainly believable. If the “npgator” wants to believe I am a moron that’s his right. Just as I have a right to believe he’s a racist. Race was is and always will be an issue to some people regardless of what they say in mixed company. At least be honest with yourself about why you feel the way you do.

  26. kelly Says:

    Hey Sid, Hispanic is not a race. So thanks for confirming the GOP’s ignorance on the subject.

  27. TankGrl Says:

    @Kelly your right being Hispanic is not a race, but maybe you should tell that to your Democratic side who are always saying the GOP is racist because they want to secure our borders and enforce our immigration laws! Now you tell me who is ignorant!

  28. Alex Says:

    I don’t think border security enters into it except for those who would use it to unite their voting bloc to waive laws restricting illegals already here, or who want to come here without obeying them.

    What I think Crist is alluding to and what most intelligent, aware citizens are recognizing, is the deep, fundamental race-hatred, primarily but not limited to, the deep South. It’s there, it’s always been there. But with the election of a man of color to our highest office and the emergence of gay and women’s rights, it has reached a critical mass.

    We’re not all White anglo-Saxon Protestant males. I am. But I’m smart enough and honest enough to be able to live my life including anyone and everyone I see as good people. Even if they differ from me.

    Mean people and jealous, bitter, greedy people need not apply. I have no room for mean-hearted people in my life, or in the political system of my nation.

  29. Joe Says:

    Well said Alex very well said….

  30. Alex Says:

    This is off topic, but – yes. Close the borders.

    There are enough of us here in need already. Let’s take care of those we have with the resources we have first, then allow qualified immigrants the privilege of tentative citizenship.

    Earn your place here. Give back what you have taken.

    If you study here, be rehired to stay here and add-back your knowledge before you take it home. If you are a felon, no dice. If you come here illegally, serve five years in prison and be permanently deported.

    I am hard-line on illegal immigration. Not for any racist or isolationist reason. But because with +320 million people living here and limited jobs and resources, it just makes sense.

  31. Joe Says:

    Immigration is an area where the GOP is internally conflicted. The hard right social conservative element wants them gone because they see them as filthy leaches costing tax payers money and the business corporate interest wants the cheap labor. Quite the dilemma for them.

  32. @ Ted Says:

    Do not ask teachers their opinion of scott. He taxes them a special 3% tax, took away their security, brought them the marzano fiasco, and is grading them on students they do not teach (VAM scores) on top of that he is farming out kids to for profit charter schools who contributed to his political campaign. Raises? Are you serious? My wife makes less money than she did five years ago. Better pick another group to defend Scott. How about the insurance industry? They do not have a soul, they would be perfect.

  33. npgator Says:

    The state of Florida is doing very well under Scott and we exceed the national average in every single economic metric. You left ideologues are contributing to the ruin of this great nation.

  34. Hype and Chains Says:

    Alex Alex!

    Close your mouth, caca is pouring out!. The far left liberal way of screaming racism and censoring those against Obama’s socialist liberal policies is old and dead. Wait until November and we will talk again.

    Logic, planning, jobs, and the rule of law will prevail over handouts and the sky is falling.

  35. Hype and Chains Says:

    and remember one thing. Rick may be corrupt, but so is Charlie…and Florida does not have a deficit like New York, Detroit, and California….which are run by liberal spenders!

  36. Alex Says:


    “You left ideologues”?

    Hey – thanks for painting me with such a broad brush. Shows you care. Starting a sentence with “You” indicates a reasonableness you can be very proud of.

    I am not an idealogue. I am an educated center-left realist. There is no “ideology” I adhere to. If it works, don’t fix it. If it’s broke, consider the big picture, then gradually fix it until it works. No sudden moves – from either side. Keep the goal in mind and make haste slowly.

    And I have to say that it’s great if the social and political landscape of Florida is working for you. But for a large and growing percentage of Florida citizens it is not working. In fact, policies effected through the Scott administration have harmed many of our citizens, and typically those of us who had the most to lose. Or who don’t have an effective voice in government.

    My thoughts are that if in fact you have done well during these hard times, you’d most likely do well anywhere and under any conditions. That’s great for you and it appears, therefore, that you’re all taken care of. Stable, secure, prosperous and happy.

    What we now need, because there are many here who are not like you (and me, frankly) are policies and interaction between our government and those most in need to ensure that they are granted the opportunity to excel as we have. Be what they may.

    We need the government to ease off the cutbacks to the most vulnerable and the benefits to the already wealthy and to instead reach across to pull up the lower and former middle classes. They are wallowing. They have no money, which means they don’t buy things, which means manufacturers, retailers and service companies are also suffering. It also means they must collect living expenses through government which is not ideal.

    There poor people in the world. Always have been, always will be. But I don’t believe a nation which holds itself out as the shining star of humanity should have hungry children living in it. Or people who feel useless and hopeless because they can’t find a decent job regardless of their efforts. In my county, one in four families are food insecure. That means they don’t know if they will eat tomorrow. Sorry. Not on my watch. For the cost of a single warship, we can start to remedy that situation. For the cost of three we can solve it. And we have hundreds of em.

    It needs to start again from the bottom up. THAT will be the key to us being a “great” nation. Not taking what we can and leaving the less fortunate behind, in other words, selfish greed. But having the heart and the dignity to turn back and reach out. That is what makes a nation and a people great.

    You know, like spreading democracy to poor the world over when they’re living on top of massive oil and gas deposits? I think you see what I’m getting at, yeah?

  37. Alex Says:

    I’ll add this. If it is left to private sector to shore up the tens of millions of our nation’s citizens who are in very real financial and social peril, it will not happen.

    Charities aren’t getting the donations they were ten years ago – why? The middle class is now taking from the charities they used to donate to.

    The elite are beholden to stockholders and to themselves, and to each other.

    Unless we want to see homeless and starving families on our streets, we need to as a society fix this issue.

    I give thousands upon thousands of dollars a year to local charities concerned with feeding, clothing and housing the poor. Last year it came to a third of my income. Several friends do the same. And we have not even made a dent in the poverty here. There are so many people in need right now it’s astonishing.

    So yeah, I have been putting my money where my mouth is. I’m blessed and I give. But for every one like me, there are a hundred who just don’t care, or would rather by a speed boat for their lake house.

    In order for a society to flourish, the least of its citizens have to have a foothold – hope. We are all Americans. We are in this together. If there were another way, I’d be in. But it is going to fall to taxation and social programs.

    Try rowing a boat with one end sinking.

    If you and others who think as you do are just greedy, difficult people cloaking yourselves in the flag under the guise of nationalism and “pride”? Go screw a rolling donut. We have no use for you. Take what’s yours and leave society. We need doers. People with heart and courage. What we don’t need are obstructive a**holes. Get me?

  38. charlie cambia casaka Says:

    The following are a few basic historical facts that every American should know.

    Fact: The Republican Party was founded primarily to oppose slavery, and Republicans eventually abolished slavery. The Democratic Party fought them and tried to maintain and expand slavery.

    Why is this indisputable fact so rarely mentioned? PBS documentaries about slavery and the Civil War barely mention it, for example. One can certainly argue that the parties have changed dramatically in 150 years, but that does not change the historical fact that it was the Democrats who supported slavery and the Republicans who opposed it. And that indisputable fact should not be airbrushed out for fear that it will tarnish the modern Democratic Party.

    Had the positions of the parties been the opposite, and the Democrats had fought the Republicans to end slavery, the historical party roles would no doubt be repeated incessantly in these documentaries. Funny how that works.

    Fact: During the Civil War era, the “Radical Republicans” were given that name because they wanted to not only end slavery but also to endow the freed slaves with full citizenship, equality, and rights.

    Yes, that was indeed a radical idea at the time!

    Fact: Lincoln’s Vice President, Andrew Johnson, was a strongly pro-Union (but also pro-slavery) Democrat who had been chosen as a compromise running mate to attract Democrats. After Lincoln was assassinated, Johnson thwarted Republican efforts in Congress to recognize the civil rights of the freed slaves, and Southern Democrats continued to thwart any such efforts for nearly a century.

    Fact: The Ku Klux Klan was originally and primarily an arm of the Southern Democratic Party, and its mission was to terrorize freed slaves and Republicans who sympathized with them.

    Why is this fact conveniently omitted in so many popular histories and depictions of the KKK, including PBS documentaries? Had the KKK been founded by Republicans, that fact would no doubt be repeated constantly on those shows.

    Fact: In the 1950s, President Eisenhower, a Republican, integrated the US military and promoted civil rights for minorities. Eisenhower pushed through the Civil Rights Act of 1957. One of Eisenhower’s primary political opponents on civil rights prior to 1957 was none other than Lyndon Johnson, then the Democratic Senate Majority Leader. LBJ had voted the straight segregationist line until he changed his position and supported the 1957 Act.

    Fact: The historic Civil Rights Act of 1964 was supported by a higher percentage of Republicans than Democrats in both houses of Congress. In the House, 80 percent of the Republicans and 63 percent of the Democrats voted in favor. In the Senate, 82 percent of the Republicans and 69 percent of the Democrats voted for it.

    Fact: Contrary to popular misconception, the parties never “switched” on racism.

    Following the epic civil rights struggles of the 1960s, the South began a major demographic shift from Democratic to Republican dominance. Many believe that this shift was motivated mainly by racism. While it is certainly true that many Southern racists abandoned the Democratic Party over its new support for racial equality and integration, the notion that they would flock to the Republican Party — which was a century ahead of the Democrats on those issues — makes no sense whatsoever.

    Yet virtually every liberal, when pressed on the matter, will inevitably claim that the parties “switched,” and most racist Democrats became Republicans! In their minds, this historical ju jitsu maneuver apparently transfers all the past sins of the Democrats (slavery, the KKK, Jim Crow laws, etc.) onto the Republicans and all the past virtues of the Republicans (e.g., ending slavery) onto the Democrats! That’s quite a feat!

    It is true that Barry Goldwater’s opposition to the Civil Rights Act of 1964 probably attracted some racist Democrats to the Republican Party. However, Goldwater was not a racist — at least not an overt racist like so many Southern Democrats of the time, such as George Wallace and Bull Connor. He publicly professed racial equality, and his opposition to the 1964 Act was based on principled grounds of states rights. In any case, his libertarian views were out of step with the mainstream of the Republican Party, and he lost the 1964 Presidential election to LBJ in a landslide.

    But Goldwater’s opposition to the 1964 Civil Rights Act provided liberals an opening to tar the Republican Party as racist, and they have tenaciously repeated that label so often over the years that it is now the conventional wisdom among liberals. But it is really nothing more than an unsubstantiated myth — a convenient political lie. If the Republican Party was any more racist than the Democratic Party even in 1964, why did a higher percentage of Republicans than Democrats in both houses of Congress vote for the 1964 Civil Rights Act? The idea that Goldwater’s vote on the 1964 Civil Rights Act trumps a century of history of the Republican Party is ridiculous, to say the least.

    Every political party has its racists, but the notion that Republicans are more racist than Democrats or any other party is based on nothing more than a constant drumbeat of unsubstantiated innuendo and assertions by Leftists, constantly echoed by the liberal media. It is a classic example of a Big Lie that becomes “true” simply by virtue of being repeated so many times.

    A more likely explanation for the long-term shift from Democratic to Republican dominance in the South was the perception, fair or not, that the Democratic Party had rejected traditional Christian religious values and embraced radical secularism. That includes its hardline support for abortion, its rejection of prayer in public schools, its promotion of the gay agenda, and many other issues.

    In the 1960s the Democratic Party essentially changed its strategy for dealing with African Americans. Thanks largely to earlier Republican initiatives on civil rights, blatant racial oppression was no longer a viable political option. Whereas before that time Southern Democrats had overtly and proudly segregated and terrorized blacks, the national Democratic Party decided instead to be more subtle and get them as dependent on government as possible. As LBJ so elegantly put it (in a famous moment of candor that was recorded for posterity), “I’ll have those niggers voting Democratic for the next 200 years.” At the same time, the Democrats started a persistent campaign of lies and innuendo, falsely equating any opposition to their welfare state with racism.

    From a purely cynical political perspective, the Democratic strategy of black dependence has been extremely effective. LBJ knew exactly what he was doing. African Americans routinely vote well over 90 percent Democratic for fear that Republicans will cut their government benefits and welfare programs. And what is the result? Before LBJ’s Great Society welfare programs, the black illegitimacy rate was as low as 23 percent, but now it has more than tripled to 72 percent.

    Most major American city governments have been run by liberal Democrats for decades, and most of those cities have large black sections that are essentially dysfunctional anarchies. Cities like Detroit are overrun by gangs and drug dealers, with burned out homes on every block in some areas. The land values are so low due to crime, blight, and lack of economic opportunity that condemned homes are not even worth rebuilding. Who wants to build a home in an urban war zone? Yet they keep electing liberal Democrats — and blaming “racist” Republicans for their problems!

    Washington DC is another city that has been dominated by liberal Democrats for decades. It spends more per capita on students than almost any other city in the world, yet it has some of the worst academic achievement anywhere and is a drug-infested hellhole. Barack Obama would not dream of sending his own precious daughters to the DC public schools, of course — but he assures us that those schools are good enough for everyone else. In fact, Obama was instrumental in killing a popular and effective school voucher program in DC, effectively killing hopes for many poor black families trapped in those dysfunctional public schools. His allegiance to the teachers unions apparently trumps his concern for poor black families.

    A strong argument could also be made that Democratic support for perpetual affirmative action is racist. It is, after all, the antithesis of Martin Luther King’s vision of a color-blind society. Not only is it “reverse racism,” but it is based on the premise that African Americans are incapable of competing in the free market on a level playing field. In other words, it is based on the notion of white supremacy, albeit “benevolent” white supremacy rather than the openly hostile white supremacy of the pre-1960s Democratic Party.

    The next time someone claims that Republicans are racist and Democrats are not, don’t fall for it.

  39. reformed Says:

    Only bigots play the race card. Conquer and divide! Sorry Charlie, you are part of the problem. City councilman should be out of your reach!

  40. Alex Says:

    @charlie cambia casaka

    Excellent post.

    I think the nineteenth century references a re a bit arcane, but otherwise you really nailed it. Thanks.

    Personally, I’m not saying that the GOP is racist, or that its leadership is. I’m pointing out that a broad base of it’s lower-middle class white constituents are racist. Just haters. It’s always been thus and it just came to a boil because of Obama’s election. They went absolutely batsh*t crazy.

    And they vote. And they by and large vote GOP at this time in history. And so therefore, the GOP base is made up to a significant extent by citizens driven by racism.

    If the GOP could shed them it would be ideal – maybe we need a third party for them to soil themselves in. But the GOP needs them. These are the voters who continually deliver the deep south. Without them, the GOP would be finished.

    They’re like the drunken, idiot cousin who won’t leave the barbecue because he brought the stereo system. Picking fights, blasting Skynyrd, knocking over tables.

    And they’re not being pandered to. The GOP gives them nothing. Which makes the situation all the more puzzling.

    It’s not the Party. It’s their foot soldiers.

  41. Flory P Says:

    Charlie Cambia makes some great well thought out points. However, there is one thing he left out. It is 2014 and Scott is a piece of garbage that should be in federal prison for Medicare Fraud. Besides that, thumbs up to Charlie for some good points!

  42. Joe Says:

    A third party for them to soil themselves in. Hmmm seems they have one already but just won’t make it official. It’s called the Tea Party. They should develop a specific platform for their true belief’s and run for office under their own brand.

  43. Alex Says:

    @Joe – got me there. I almost went an entire week without thinking about the Tea Party. Shame on me.

    I think it was easier for them to co-opt the GOP’s base because the two share the same core constituency. Angry veterans, sanctimonious phony-baloney Christians, employers hit by costly government wage and tax increases, let alone trade issues. The Tea Party leaders were smart – they waited for the divide, then merely conquered.

    No offense to Idaho, but we should just give them Idaho and wave so long. Do-it-yourselfers? Fine. But when your social experiment implodes within five years, you have to shut up and come back ready to play ball.

  44. RealAngst Says:

    There are times when I read the comments here and I am amazed at how the rhetoric from the left and right are represented. I happen to like Crist and really dislike Scott. I like Crist because even as a R he was not a rabid RWingnut. He was Conservative but moderate in how he governed. I know for a fact that the poster who referred to the Deposition of Gov Scott is telling the truth and how Scott was not indicted is still a mystery to me as he was complicit in the fraud. Taking the 5th? As a CEO and you are taking Government money? If they agreed to paying a fine that high, imagine how much he got away with! As for the poster who suggested that Scott got teachers the raises, think again because public sector employees, Police/Fire/Teachers were the first groups he attacked and cut funding to. He is pandering to the teachers because they are the easier of the 3 to deal with. Scott wont get my vote. If I want a snake in my house I will buy one.

  45. Willie Says:

    Alex got it on the money. They GOP uses the uninsured, underpaid masses to keep them in office to perpetuate their own greed for the real people who run them behind the scenes. Throw around a little Jesus and 2nd amendment and you have 1/2 your voting block right there. Genius.

  46. TrafficAvenger Says:

    charlie cambia casaka ,

    Thanks for the history lesson and would say the two parties seem to have gone through a role reversal over the course of time. But here is a question I often ask.

    Just how many black folks are there in the G.O.P. and why? And the ones who are there are just as radical as the old white folks.

    The answer is. Most blacks are apart of the middle class and the G.O.P. does not cattier to the middle class.

    With the policies of the G.O.P. of today. The middle class is worst off now then when the G.O.P. started us down the road of off shoring jobs invented by Nixon and practiced during the days of Reagan and perfected under the G.O.P. leadership of “W” Bush.

    And as has been so elegantly laid out by Alex, the middle class has been sold out by the leadership of the G.O.P. every chance they got and continue to do so to this day.

    Now then. A open question to whom it may concern.

    Name a piece of G.O.P. legislation, proposed or passed, state or federal. Whose sole intent was to improve the quality of life a single member of the middle class?

    And to those you who feel that the economy has somehow recovered from the economic G.O.P. policies that brought the economy to its knees in the first place.

    What you are saying is that the economy had to be brought to its knees by the policies of the G.O.P. for the economy to improve to where it is today. And somehow you are going to give credit to Gov. Scott for that improvement?Really?

    I don’t think so.

    As Always,
    You Have A Great Day.

  47. Alex Says:

    They looooves them some Jesus.

    They just find it unpatriotic to behave as He would.

    If Jesus were alive today He wouldn’t be able to stop throwing up.

  48. Alex Says:


    Careful – you’re about to be cherry-picked to stems and pits by people who say the same things about the Democrats.

    There is absolutely no way you can win this debate – from either side – quoting facts.

    There are no facts. Only millions of hungry families balanced out by a couple of thousand upper-management types in $6000 loafers shopping vacation properties in their Land Rovers.

    Oh, and millions of the GOP faithful across the heartland railing against government subsidies all the while (very quietly) applying for every red cent from the government they can to stay afloat.

    But they still won’t vote Dem. Because we’re the “party of gays and blacks and Jews” the “party of ‘them’”, and people who use big words to express what a normal fella can say with his fists.

    You can’t argue with a parrot. And you can argue with a moron, but what’s the point?

  49. busy914 Says:

    Come on out of the closet Charlie .You have a BS excuse for everything you do.You only have the teaparty and communist party left.You are one stupid person to think we believe you and your garbage.Let the dems run a real person

  50. Alex Says:

    Oh, so you’re insinuating that Mr. Crist is homosexual? And that there’s an issue with that? You know, like very slightly and carefully taking a semantic swipe at his civil rights?

    I see now. You’re a hater.

    He’s going to be your next governor chief. Idaho is that-a-way.

  51. @busy914 Says:

    Busy914 seems to be thinking about penis….. He has penis on his mind.

  52. Alex Says:

    I think there are other forums for that. This one is about politics.

  53. Addison Says:

    Don’t African-American President me Charlie! Changing your story on party switch much too often. I suspect you will hit upon something that will be believable one of these days. It is oh so boring and untrue about that race card stuff. Obama’s lack of good policies, communication, overseas relationships and the list goes on…HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE! There ya go, keep trying Charlie, cannot wait until we hear yet another tale of why you switched parties. And going to Cuba? Really?

  54. Joe Says:

    My favorite GOP faithful are the ones who remortgaged their homes they really can’t afford to be in using Obama’s “Making Home Affordable” relief program. Then sit home collecting extended unemployment benefits, food stamps and Medicaid then justify their actions by saying “if the blacks are going to do it so am I”. They do this in clear conscience because they vote for republican candidates who rail against these very programs. I’m sure there is a mental disorder associated with this behavior but I don’t know what to call it.

  55. Victor Connor Says:

    Speaking as a mid life, baby boomer white man, the great majority of us have long ago come to the point where we do in fact judge a man by the content of his character and not the color of his skin.

    I, and all I know, oppose Obama because his vision of America is that of a third world country, no better than any other country.

    His statement that “I beleive in American exceptionalism just as I suspect that the Brits beleive in British exceptionalism and the Greeks beleive in Greek exceptionalism”.

    That quote sums it all up. Obama has chosen to lead America down the route of ordinary, as just another country. Well, if you don’t believe in yourself, you will be right.

    We dont want a leader that thinks were just like everyone else. Americans want to be exceptional. We’ve spent over 238 years working on being exceptional and Obama is ready, willing, and disposed to lead us down the path of ordinary.

    That’s why so many dislike Obama and its got nothing, nada, not a thing, to do with race. I don’t care if he is black, white, yellow, brown, red, purple or green.

    I’m not willing to follow any man who’s goal it is to make us just like everyone else, and I will actively oppose any man who tries to do just that.

  56. TrafficAvenger Says:


    The easiest way to start that conversation or that debate, would be to propose or present the debate presented under the G.O.P. idea of what medical cannabis is and who it can help.

    The funny side of that conversation is the fact that under the guidelines put forth by the G.O.P. for the use of medical cannabis for some children.

    It will be easier for the kid to get a hold of a hand gun then it is for then to get safe access to a harmless herb that would improve their quality of life.

    I will leave the debate alone for now about adult access to medical cannabis for another day.

    And it is mandates and policy of the G.O.P. that has brought us to this day. Where it is easier to get a gun in the hand of a child then it is get people medicine that would do wonders for their quality of life.

    And that is a sad state of affairs.

    On another note along that line. In the proposal passed by the G.O.P. for their medical cannabis bill. It is going to establish (5) stores to provide that low T.H.C. cannabis to these Patients at different places around the state.

    Care to bet whether or not the future owners of these five pot shops are friends of the leadership of the G.O.P.?

    Me neither.

    As Always,
    You Have A Great Day.

  57. From My friend michael for everyone Says:

    People’s perception of freedom never ceases to amaze me. French revolutionaries sent the ruling class to the guillotine, only to enslave themselves to the class structure of socialism. The Russian Tsars were chased out of their own country so that “freedom fighters” could live under the tyranny of communism. And, after more than a century of civil liberty battles and triumphs, African-Americans are flocking to the party that opposed every measurable civil rights initiative since the Emancipation Proclamation. It should stun historians that the party of the Ku Klux Klan and segregation now has an undeniable stranglehold on black America.

    In fact, a quick Google search will yield thousands of results claiming the mantel of moral superiority in the name of Democrats. The Left’s self-righteous proclamation of compassion is matched only by their insatiable eagerness to twist history. It was the Republican Party – the party established on the abolitionist platform – that passed the Civil Rights acts of 1866 and 1875. The founders of the NAACP were all registered Republicans. Dwight Eisenhower (a Republican) is the president who sent troops to Arkansas to de-segregate schools. Republicans carried the Civil Rights acts of the ‘50s and 60’s to the President’s desk. Richard Nixon wrote the US commission on Civil Rights in 1975. It was George W Bush who appointed more minorities to his cabinet than any President before him.

    And despite the fact that the Democrat party supported the KKK, instituted Jim Crow laws, fought for “separate but equal” southern laws, and opposed Martin Luther King Jr.’s march on Washington, they claim to be the party of the downtrodden. Perusing through websites like Salon, the New York Times, and the Huffington Post, one can find an endless number of articles describing the GOP as a party of rich, and racist, white men.

    Today’s Party of Barack Obama and Harry Reid, ignores FDR’s history of opposing anti-lynching laws. They ignore John F Kennedy’s vote, as a Senator, against the 1950’s era civil rights laws. They even ignore the egregious violence and lawlessness that plague some of America’s most Democrat cities. (Such as Detroit, Chicago, Washington DC and Los Angeles.)

    In a raging display that resembles the clinical definition of “denial”, the American left claims that Republicans have abandoned their civil-rights-minded past. They assert that the right wing of America is nothing more than racist, backward thinking rednecks who “cling to their guns, religion, and an antipathy toward people not like them.” (Remember Obama saying that?) But nothing could be further from the truth.

    Conservative values – values that were intrinsic in American democracy long before the Republican Party – have always been the core of the right wing. Limited government, individualism, and equality are three values that helped spur the Republicans onto the national scene; and ultimately lead to their success in the fight for civil liberties. Today’s conservative causes continue the traditionally Republican heritage of promoting a better life for every American:

    Welfare reform was not an assault on poor people of color. Rather, it was about lifting people (of any race or creed) out of poverty. Conservatives such as Newt Gingrich, Ronald Reagan, and even Calvin Coolidge, always believed the success of a welfare program should be judged by how many people no longer need it. While Newt Gingrich worked on reform that would limit welfare payments, Democrats looked at ways to make poverty more comfortable. Ninety-nine weeks of unemployment (today’s standard) is not designed to promote self-sufficiency; but it is certainly a populist and pandering attempt for votes. Wouldn’t a truly successful nation have little need for government-funded lunch programs, long-term unemployment benefits, and taxpayer-funded entitlements? Had Liberalism succeeded in lifting the afflicted out of victimization, wouldn’t cities like Chicago, Detroit, and Philadelphia be centers of prosperity and affluence for minorities?

    School vouchers are about lifting children from failing schools. While Republicans continue to fight for a parent’s right to send their children to the school of their choice, Democrats continue to defend the failing status quo. Voucher systems would enable the poorest children to attend the same school as some of the most privileged. And while the reform would undoubtedly benefit the poorest among us (and disproportionately aid African Americans as well as other minority groups) the American Left would rather stand behind the millions of dollars’ worth of political donations from the Teacher’s Unions. (Apparently, protecting a union job is more important than sending an inner city youth to the school of his or her choice.)

    Even the Conservative opposition to Affirmative Action is based off of the Republican Party’s long history of protecting minorities. Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas wrote that “The worst forms of racial discrimination in this Nation have always been accompanied by straight-faced representations that discrimination helped minorities.” He was speaking, of course, about the American Left’s assumption that a person of color is incapable of acceptance into an Ivy League School without government intervention. For some reason, people on the left believe that minorities are so incapable of achieving, they can only experience something close to “success” with the help of the all-powerful government.

    That gem, Democratic National Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, equated Republican efforts at voter ID laws with Jim-Crow laws. (Ironic. . . Given that she belongs to the party that tried to legislate discrimination for over a century.) However, it is the disenfranchised voters (the elderly, the poor, and – yes – minorities) who are most likely to be victims of voter fraud. . . You would think a law that applies at least a moderate layer of protection for legitimate citizens to cast their vote with confidence would be welcomed by all parties.

    Conservatism, and the GOP, have always been the party of the individual. Individual liberty and freedom is the defining measure of national freedom. Martin Luther King Jr. did not dream of a world where his children were treated different simply because of the color of their skin; he dreamed of a world that judged them on their intellect, their effort, their success and “the content of their character.” (Oh, and by the way, he was a Republican.)

    As the American Left sells their ideas of affirmative action, standardized schools, and race-based political correctness, we as Americans are not supposed to judge them on the impacts of their policies. Democrats claim to fight for the oppressed minorities in violence plagued urban cities. But, how dare we point out the failure of the Democrat leadership, Liberal initiatives, Leftist gun control, progressive teacher unions, and socialist rhetoric in those very same urban areas.

    It’s not as if Republicans are responsible for the woes of Detroit. . . There are no Republicans in charge.

    It’s not as if Conservatives are to blame for Chicago. . . Liberals run it.

    It’s not as if the Right Wing was engaged in voter fraud in Philly. . . Democrats won 100 percent of the vote in multiple districts.

    Democrats, the left, and progressives have always been the party of permanent class status. Where would the Democrat’s be without the “exploited” worker? Where would they be without the “struggling” man? The American left has exploited, plundered, and manipulated their way into power since they first justified laws that banned freed slaves from owning weapons for self-defense. Democrats have built their image off of class warfare, race-based-politics, and envy. They promise, in every election, to better the lives of the afflicted by afflicting the affluent. Their entire philosophy is based, not off of individual empowerment, but off of gaining comfort through government dependency.

    The GOP has always been focused on individual rights; because individual liberty is the ultimate empowerment for the poor, the afflicted, and the oppressed. Only Government can successfully crush the spirit of the ambitious, or tax the wealth of the successful. Individual liberty is the power to make of your life what you would like, and take ownership of your rewards. This is the foundation upon which prosperity has historically been built. When the individual is free of government oppression, wealth soon becomes abundant throughout society. By contrast, larger government erodes property rights, encourages dependency on the state, and ultimately strips away the upward mobility upon which successful societies depend.

    In short: Conservatism proudly declares that rights are granted by God, and every human being is capable of prosperity. Government’s role, is to protect the individual from oppression, and guard our individual rights to life, liberty and property.

    Liberalism declares rights are gifts from Government. The American Left appeals to those who identify themselves as victims in the same way socialists and communists appealed to the oppressed masses of Europe and Russia. The truth is, their policies only promise the destruction of the powerful, not the empowerment of the oppressed. And thus, the “victims” will forever remain “victims” of urban violence, failing schools, deteriorating infrastructure and welfare dependency.

    The Republican Party hasn’t changed. Only the way it is perceived has evolved over the decades.

    And likewise for the Party of the KKK.

  58. What a Loser Says:

    Charlie is amping up.

    1. Republicans are racists. That’s why he left the party. WHAT A LIE! He was losing and he became an Independent. Then, when he lost a race as an Independent, he became a DemocRAT! What a joker.

    2. Now, Charlie wants to go to Cuba. First a Republican, then an Independent, then a Democrat and what’s next, a Communist! What a joke.

  59. @ From my friend etc Says:

    Wow man, you put a lot of work into that. Did you write all of that or cut and paste it from somewhere? I respect your effort, but as long as republicans are telling me what I can do with my body, who I can love, and screwing up the environment, they have no place in my life. Also, you are hardcore, putting that much faith in a political party seems misguided. It is not religion or our country. Honestly, we would all be better off if there were no political parties and we all just voted for the person and not the party. My two cents.

  60. Luisito Says:

    hey Charlie, if you having aids in Cuba you go to the prison ok?

  61. bugsy914 Says:

    Alex it is the people with the $6000 loafers who pay for all the Dem subsidies.If you are a subsidy receiver you’ve nothing into the economy.Throw the people with money out of the country and we become one big Detroit. Dems make their own facts and rules.The economy still stinks more businesses closing than opening

  62. Jesus Nghe Says:

    I´m sure her views might have changed but she was speaking her truth.

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