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Group plans to review St. Lucie County ballots, records from Murphy-West cliffhanger

by George Bennett | May 10th, 2013

Election drama in St. Lucie County included the discovery 10 days after the election that the 306 ballots in these cardboard boxes had not been counted.

A conservative group plans to examine more than 118,000 ballots and sift through voter registration records in St. Lucie County, which was the site of tabulating problems and litigation in Democrat Patrick Murphy‘s narrow congressional victory over Republican Allen West in November.

The group True The Vote says it will send at least 10 people to Fort Pierce to look at the ballots and records under an agreement reached this week with St. Lucie County Elections Supervisor Gertrude Walker.

True The Vote and Pamela Wohlschlegel, the former head of the Palm Beach County Tea Party, filed a federal suit against Walker in February, claiming her office was denying access to public records. Walker denied blocking access. A settlement dated Wednesday states True The Vote will have access to the records it wants and will pay the elections office for copies and staff time associated with the request.

“This lawsuit has never been about the victor. It’s been about vulnerabilities, vulnerabilities in the system,” True The Vote attorney J. Christian Adams said. He said at least 10 and as many as 50 people will participate in examining the ballots and records. Adams said his group expects to pay more than $20,000 for the exercise.

Among the questions True The Vote hopes to answer, Adams said, is “Were people voting in the congressional election that weren’t allowed to vote?”

The records True The Vote plans to review include registration forms for people who became voters after Jan. 1, 2012, notices sent to inactive voters, lists of voters purged from the county rolls after Jan. 1, 2009, notices sent to potential felons and lists of voters who were identified by the Florida secretary of state’s office as potential non-citizens.

Murphy officially defeated West by 1,904 votes or less than 0.6 percent in the expensive, nationally watched congressional District 18 race. About 36 percent of the ballots were cast in St. Lucie County, with the remainder in Martin and Palm Beach counties.

Walker admitted her office double-counted some ballots from early voting and failed to count others on election night. That led to a partial recount of 16,275 early-voting ballots in which West made a net gain of 535 votes. Based on those results and the subsequent revelation that another 306 early votes had gone uncounted, the county’s canvassing board ordered a recount of all 37,379 ballots from St. Lucie County’s early voting.

The larger recount showed Murphy making a net gain of 242 votes — but the revised figure was not included in the county’s official total because the canvassing board missed a noon deadline to submit its final results to the state Division of Elections.

67 Responses to “Group plans to review St. Lucie County ballots, records from Murphy-West cliffhanger”

  1. Your Tea Sucks Says:

    There will be some lonely street corners devoid of mis-spelled signs as the Tea Party tries to find any amongst themselves that can count higher than the fingers on their hands.

  2. David Says:

    Talk about sore losers. Did they all forget the Bush Gore fiasco where Republicans were screaming that gore should not challenge the election. Gore did bow out even though he actually won the election. What hypocrites, it makes my head spin.

  3. JT Says:

    The demonrats lie and cheat so much they will probably find thousands of uncounted votes..The only honest demonrat in the world has no arms!

  4. drippinhun Says:

    Demonrats? Wow, that’s so clever, you probably are a Tea Party member. The Koch brothers would be proud.

  5. Tea Lady Says:

    Every vote MUST count! No exceptions!

  6. Downtown Danny Says:

    THE TEA PARTY HAS BEEN LONG BEEN EXPOSED for who they are – a bunch of political hacks paid for by the Koch brothers.

    Go count your ballots – by the time you’d find anything and get the courts to do something it will be 2 years and time for another election anyway

  7. rp mcmurphy Says:

    The bastardization/ use of name-calling is usually a sign of desperation and a surrender to the frustration at the loss of control in the conversation. Your candidate lost.. It’s disturbing and pathetic that the members of the Tea Party continue with this fruitless endeavor..

  8. John Q Public Says:

    So… suppose the roles were reversed and Allen West had won. Would True the Vote still be here demanding a recount ? I seriously doubt it.

  9. Hank Shae Says:

    yet nothing said about Benghazi..

  10. jebamoni4 Says:


  11. Soylent Green Says:

    Go West !

    Where O where is Joyce The Pastrami Slinger Kaufman ?

  12. throbo Says:

    Why do the Republicans still want West to be relevant? He was an incumbent who lost a Republican district with a huge funding advantage.

  13. djnfla Says:

    Sadly, I suspect they will find voter fraud. I will be watching this closely…

  14. entitlement man Says:

    West is a man that the left can not have in Washington. He is articulate, honest and unfortunately critical of the movement that is in Washington today. People will soon realize that O’bama and his cronies are dangerous andNOT Democrats. That’s the sad part. America has always been a two party system, and because of that other groups have to hide in amongst them – hence the radical Muslims. The FACT that six Muslim Brotherhood people are in among O’bama’s Czar syatem, (two of which are in Homeland Security), should make ALL Americans nervous. West is just one of the growing group – including ABC and other Democrats, (American Democrats), that are starting to figure this movement out. It’s just too bad the Post is still coveing for this group and remaining loyal to this anti-American movement. It’s time we ALL woke up.

  15. Karensky Says:

    Downtown Danny you have it exactly right. By the time the violation will be uncovered they will have gotten away with voter fraud. A strange justification of illegality. Then again it is your illegality that you are defending. Everything for power and everything against your political opponent is justified. A fine country you are complicit it destroying.

  16. gatorbear Says:


    yes, what about Benghazi??? The dems want to sweep this under the rug and say that the GOP is being political. In actuality, there are 4 dead Americans & there is a cover up. Jay Carney is a tool, & this will hurt Bill, sorry, Hill Clinton in the future (2016). Her statement of why does it matter will resound over & over on both the GOP & dems side. She knew what was up and did nothing. As for West, I grew up in Palm Beach and have been away for a while so not sure what is up with that. But West seems like a stand up guy. Just sayin.

  17. Bito Says:

    @Teabaglady, Every vote must count? Even illegal votes? You are still a nut who has not been taking your meds, Too much kool-aid again, You forgot to say join the teabag movement.
    @Tjnfla, I agree with you on there will find voter fraud, By the RETHUGLICAN NUT CASES LIKE YOU.

  18. Wyn Says:

    There are more victims dying of gun violence and mass murder each and everyday in America more than the four who died in Benghazi. When the Rethuglicans take that more seriously, then maybe we’ll take them more seriously

  19. OBIWAN Says:

    Can’t St. Lucie county voting records stand a citizen review of every single ballot?

    We will finally get an honest evaluation and final vote tally. Gert stopped once she slid past the official deadline.

    NO, we won’t know how many ballots got stuffed from all the hidden boxes set up for that purpose. Ask yourself again how many voters would mark just the guy at the top and not care about any other local or state offices?

    At a minimum, this group will also see the actual voter precinct registration records and tally how many Felons, Snowbirds, Dead People and the Israelis moving away 20 years ago?

    That is the real fear of SUNSHINE for ole GERT… thorough incompetence blended with a pure rabid progressive liberal loon vote theft ring!

  20. SaveU.S. Says:

    The GOP would never do anything to fix an election so the results were in their favor?!. Extreme lefts can be counted on one hand. There aren’t enough fingers in the USofA to count the other side. It wouldn’t bother if the thinking wasn’t so narrow and lacking in concern for anyone but themselves. Guess the ‘good samaritan’ went back to home cause you can’t find it in the self claiming righteous in this country. At least on the right side of the isle.

  21. RalphSchmalph Says:

    Only a Democrat partisan would oppose an inquiry into illegal registration, lax identification policies and generally fraudulent voting. Many of the commentators here who choose personal attack as an argument are of that stripe. WE WILL DEFEAT YOU; JUST GIVE US TIME TO EDUCATE YOUR GREATEST SOURCE OF SUPPORT……..THE UNINFORMED.

  22. Carol Says:

    Nice to see Ms. Walker is out of the hospital. I recall that she checked herself into the hospital during the period of questioning why there were more ballots cast than registered voters. True the Vote is not a Tea Party Patriot-affiliated organization, though I suspect the very word ‘true’ would offend Democrats. Kudos to them for enriching St. Lucie County by approximately $20,000, but it’s doubtful anything will come of their investigation since any incriminating evidence will have been destroyed long ago. Mr. Murphy (and his cohort Ms. Frankel) have gone to Washington, done nothing of any significance , walked the party line, voted with the Dems. on any issue requiring a vote, and re-decorated their offices. They’re good little lemmings, and Democrats are happy. Democrats do not like controversy or anyone who disagrees with them. Mr. West is meant for bigger and better things than being a lemming.

  23. drippinhun Says:

    So many have drunk the Kool-Aid. Keep counting. It must be nice to have nothing else to do but to support a vitriolic, misguided military washout.

  24. Get over it already Says:

    I’m surprised the KKK lovin Teabaggers are putting forth so much wasted effort on a black man.
    Get over it. Your token lost.
    Where were you ‘true the vote’ liars when Bushco stole the 2000 election?

  25. Carrie Says:

    On Aug 23 Rush Limbaugh said: “-the country could survive four more years of Obama-”

    Folks thought he was somehow moderating, but it’s LIMBAUGH CODE for: “Us ‘Real Americans’ can make it through another Obama term, and then…”

    Limbaugh also said that he: “- does not know what “we” can do about a majority of people who would re-elect the guy-”

    That’s LIMBAUGH CODE for: Rather than accepting the majority win “we” must find a way to prevent these people from running “our” country… “we” can prevent them from voting, even cancel elections and suspend Democracy and The Constitution in the name of Liberty and Freedom.

    When Bush lost to Clinton in ‘92 he conceded with this statement

    Rush is setting the stage for a right-wing coup if the tea party doesn’t win. Voter suppression is just the beginning of the Anti-Democratic (formerly Republican) Party’s assault on the people of the USA. Here we see them subconsciously (or maybe not) discussing what they will do if the elections result in a loss…

    They have already destroyed all productive American industry, our good jobs, religious freedom, our future, and the economy… and now, WIN OR LOSE, they will destroy the remaining shreds of American Democracy, Constitutional rights, and ultimately rule the nation.

    Dictatorship masquerading as Morality in the name of Liberty.

  26. Bito Says:

    @Carol, True the vote is not a Taebag party patriot- affiliated orgazation? The head of True the vote is former palm beach country head of the teabag party, Pamela Wohlschlegel, And you are saying there is no affiliazion? Are you really that MISINFORMED AND DUMB? Get the FACTS lady, But in your world FACTS don`t seem to matter.

  27. mike Says:

    LOL, the losers stink of desperation.

  28. 747 Pilot Says:

    Entitlement Man,

    Whom are these people in Homeland Security? Where is your evidence? Who are the cronies you speak of? What is this movement you speak of?

  29. Francisco Says:

    So what is the problem? They are using their own money at no cost to the tax payer. If there was no fraud, then there is nothing to worry about. I do understand how a review would make a democrat nervious. They have cheated and lied in so many elections in the past, the odds are pretty good they lied and cheated in this one, But even if they find fraud, it is not going to change the outcome of the election. It’sjust going to make 2014 a more fair election. After all, isnt that what all Americans want?

  30. Sanity please Says:

    What is wrong with all of you liberals that need to yell and scream and whine about this. My God what do you care if a private group wants to look I to it. Stop crying and name calling over nothing. If the vote was accurate then fine,no problem. Of it wasn’t then you try to fix it next time. How is this the worst thing in the universe today? By the way, for all of of the uninformed people who only get there info from bumper stickers and clever slogans, nobody stole the 2000 election either. There was an independent review by two media outlets and Bush still won. Don’t tell anyone though, it doesn’t fit the narrative that you and MSNBC have lived your life by.

  31. gatorbear Says:

    There are more victims dying of gun violence and mass murder each and everyday in America more than the four who died in Benghazi. When the Rethuglicans take that more seriously, then maybe we’ll take them more seriously

    @ Wyn: You are a complete moron. So it is ok that 4 Americans were killed and the sec of state lied about it, Obama did nothing but go to Vegas to campaign and that is fine with you. Some of the harshest gun laws in America are in Chicago, my neck of the woods originally, so what is your point???? The harshest gun laws with one of the highest rate of gun violence. I am ashamed to say that our leader comes from Chi Town. By the way Wyn, the most recent act of murder was the Boston Marathon. No guns invloved there just plain terrorism which Obama fails to even say it is Muslim terrorism. In fact, in Benghazi, he totally wiped what the CIA clean of any mention of Al Queda or any muslim terrorist action. As Clowney, Carney said yesterday, it was what??????

  32. gatorbear Says:

    @ Sanity Please: very well said.

  33. gatorbear Says:

    @ Wyn: I can’t get over your comment. Only 4 Americans died????????????? What if that was your father, brother or good friend?????? Would you be whistling a different tune?????? It is just amazing that someone can write what you wrote. That is the problem with the world today.

  34. drippinhun Says:

    I could care less if a private group wants to waste its time looking at this. I’m just amused that fanatics can be so whacked out at not accepting a clear majority count by saying this is what democracy is about, but never held the same standards when it came to Bush definitely stealing the 2000 election. Hypocritical trash.

  35. Tim Says:

    Allen West is a man that is much like the gonorrhea drips, just when you think their gone, the come back in spades!

  36. kelly Says:

    Let us in! Let us in!

  37. Me Says:

    Benghazi – ok; what about the Bush bullying of his OWN people and those in Congress of his lies of WMD to justify his unfunded war(s), leading to thousands of US troops dying and inciting more anti US sentiment, rather than just going after Bin Laden, Taliban and Al Quaeda? Where were the inquiries there? Hmm, the Gore v Bush – did you see democrats crying and whining for years? Tried to work with what they had. What a concept. We have a president who is trying to Muslimize the US and take down our country? Get real. Starting with Busw (W) we have taken this 2-party system and polrized is so badly our entire system is paralyzed. When a party says their only mission is to make him a one term president? How does this help you and me? Mistakes happen. Communications gets botched. Not everything is a freaking conspiracy to take down the country – sheesh! We are human (at least most of us). Learn from mistakes. Deal with disappointment. Keep the real goals in mind, and be productive, not obstructionist or destructive because you don’t like it. Gee, I don’t like it that my team lost this one, so I’m going to take a pin and deflate the ball and urinate on the field till a new game starts. Please.

  38. gatorbear Says:

    @me; You dems need to get off Bush. There were major dems that agreed they had WMD’s. This is the most diversive president we have ever had. When you and the rest of the dems wake up to that, our country will get back on track. I have a question for you as well. obama had all the black vote yet unemployment has never been higher for the black community. What has he done for them yet he still got their vote. I can go on & on about how he mislead everyone in regards to obamacare and it won’t cost anything. What a bunch of crap. I really don’t get into this because it gets one no where, yet some people on this blog have gotten under my skin with some of their comments. Comments are like a-holes, everyone has got one.

  39. Me Says:

    @gatorbear – All I’m pointing out is that as much as you can claim against Obama, you can claim that against Bush, or Clinton, or Bush, Or Reagan, Or Nixon, or Kennedy, or… You have a president. Stop making it all about “get him kicked out” and make progress. Are you asserting that the GOP did not publicly state that their #1 goal was make him a one term president? None of this is opinion. It’s fact. It is a quote. Why would anyone who had the best interest of the US at heart say that, rather than work with the administration to make progress. Again, just fact – they said it, they did it with votes. Be part of the solution – don’t just crap on the ball and say you won’t play until you get another chance to put someone in the White House.

  40. Me Says:

    Oh, BTW, it’s “divisive” not “diversive” and “comments are like a-holes…”, ummm, it’s “opinions are like a-holes…”

  41. Bito Says:

    @Gatorbear, 3000 died in Iraq based on A LIE. What about if those people were your father, brother or friend? Any comments about that?????

  42. gatorbear Says:

    @me: so are comments. I know that it is opinions. One can actually ad lib if one chooses. Maybe it was in the best interest of our country not to get him elected then reelected. Only the next 3 .5 years will tell that. I would love to keep in touch to see what your view is on how these next years pan out. One of my favorite president’s was Kennedy. My Dad worked for Mayor Daley in Chicago. The real Mayor Daley so I am not against dems. I just don’t think this present administration is doing anything good for our country. Please don’t come back with Bush or any other president for that matter, just tell me what he has done positive and I will tell you what he has done negative. My list way out weighs yours.

  43. Bito Says:

    @Gatordeadbear, We will get off GW when you get off of Obama.

  44. gatorbear Says:

    @bito: Once again, there was major support from the dums as well. The democrats voted for it and did not want to seem weak before the next election and voted for it again. Move on from any thing Bush did and fess up for the current administration. Bush has been gone for 5 years now. Why must you dums keep bringing him up?????? In the 80′s, we had Reagan, Bob Hope & Johnny Cash. Now we have obama, no hope & no cash.

  45. gatorbear Says:

    @bito; Bush has been gone for 5 years bro. How can one get of obama when he is the current leader of the free world. God help us.

  46. gatorbear Says:

    @bitemeo: gatordeadbear, very mature. Typical dummycrat. Keep with obama & jay carney & pelosi & harry reid. I used to go to Vegas once a month but will never give any of my money there as long as that idiot is in charge.

  47. gatorbear Says:

    Everyone have a great day, dums included. I will be going water skiing, then pull up at the local watering hole slurping down some oysters with a couple of Sam Adams. What a country, despite obama.

  48. drippinhun Says:


    The only reason some Democrats believed there were WMDs in Iraq is because they believed the so-called bogus evidence the lying Bush administration presented.

  49. gatorbear Says:

    @dripinhun: That is one amazing, compelling explanation why the dums voted as they did. They BELIEVED what was presented to them. They took some government officials at their word. Hey drip, I have some land east of Singer Island that I want to sell. You interested?? I’m out of here.

  50. Downtown Danny Says:

    Republicans refused to hold one hearing on that!

  51. drippinhun Says:


    They took the word of the Secretary of Defense, State and the President. You would have thought they could trust the evidence they presented. But then again, listening to Republicans on a mission and I guess they were stupid.

  52. Me Says:

    Okay, GWB was an absentee landlord when it came to the economy and to what led up to 9/11. He was handed intelligence over and over and ignored it. I’m not a conspiracy theorist, so I’m not going there. FACT – he was given intelligence about AQ activities, and looking to use airplanes as weapons, and he did nothing. As a frequent traveler, I saw NOTHING as far as security changes, and we know he ignored it. Now as for the economy, everyone, but everyone saw the looming disaster because of the derivatives and subprime mortgages. Hell, people were calling it in 2004 – not if, but when. He sat back and did nothing. Housing is booming, mission accomplished, I’m great. He took more vacation than (I think) any president in history. Way more than you guys accuse Obama of taking. And he had no idea what to do to get some regulations in place to prevent predatory lending. We can go on and on, round and round. Bottom line is, he is your president. Stop the freaking witch hunts and obstrucitonist (again, fact, check the GOP quotes) activities, and do something positive rather than whining!

    And the “comments” vs “opinions”? Nice try to cover the misuse of the metaphor. Don’t you own up to any mistake you make?

  53. Me Says:

    Oh yes, “out weighs” is one word.

    And “dummycrats” – real mature.

    And get off Bush? Why when we’re still paying for his absenteeism? Because he’s gone and it’s going to take decades, if ever to repair the damage he did on a questionable election (first one), time-based amnesia? He’s gone, forget the damage he caused?

    Als on the “out weighs” thing – tell me exactly what damage Obama did that outweighs 9/11, an Iraq war, housing bust, all that happened on Bush’s watch. Bush presided while we finally got UBL (regardless of how much intel was around form Bush, or even Clinton), stock market is over 15,000, the housing freefall has stopped, the crash under Bush has been (albeit slowly) turning into a growing rather than crashing economy. Don’t like Obamacare? Sorry. no one can bat 1000. But he’s doing a damn sight better than GWB did…

  54. Me Says:

    Oops, mistype. Obama presided when we got UBL. Regardless of the intel gathered under Clinton or Bush. Bush said Mission Accomplished. Not for me or my friends who died in the WTC…

  55. Me Says:

    @gatorbear – you used to go to Vegas and give your money there once a month but you won’t any more while Obama is in office? This makes sense exactly how??? I’d prefer you spend your money supporting local businesses rather than giving it to casinos that already make huge profits.

  56. gatorbear Says:

    @me: could not have put it better myself. The oysters were good, the water glass & beers better. By the way me, I said reid, not obama in Nevada. And you continuing to correct my grammar, what is up with that. Are you an English teacher?? If not, just stop it.


    written by, Mychal Massie, a respected writer and black talk show host in Los Angeles.

    The other evening on my twitter, a person asked me why I didn’t like the
    Obamas? Specifically I was asked: “I have to ask, why do you hate the
    Obamas? It seems personal, not policy related. You even dissed
    (disrespect) their Christmas family picture.”

    The truth is I do not like the Obamas, what they represent, their ideology,
    and I certainly do not like his policies and legislation. I’ve made no
    secret of my contempt for the Obamas. As I responded to the person who
    asked me the aforementioned question, I don’t like them because they are
    committed to the fundamental change of my/our country into what can only be
    regarded as a Communist state.

    I don’t hate them per definition, but I condemn them because they are the
    worst kind of racialists, they are elitist Leninists with contempt for
    traditional America . They display disrespect for the sanctity of the
    office he holds, and for those who are willing to admit same, Michelle
    Obama’s raw contempt for white America is transpicuous.

    I don’t like them because they comport themselves as emperor and empress.
    I expect, no I demand respect, for the Office of President and a love of our
    country and her citizenry from the leader entrusted with the governance of
    same. President and Mrs. Reagan displayed an unparalleled love for the
    country and her people. The Reagan’s made Americans feel good about
    themselves and about what we could accomplish. His arrogance by appointing
    32 leftist czars and constantly bypassing congress is impeachable. Eric
    Holder is probably the MOST incompetent and arrogant DOJ head to ever hold
    the job. Could you envision President Reagan instructing his Justice
    Department to act like jack-booted thugs?

    Presidents are politicians and all politicians are known and pretty much
    expected to manipulate the truth, if not outright lie, but even using that
    low standard, the Obama’s have taken lies, dishonesty, deceit, mendacity,
    subterfuge and obfuscation to new depths. They are verbally abusive to the
    citizenry, and they display an animus for civility.

    I do not like them, because they both display bigotry overtly, as in the
    case of Harvard Professor Louis Gates, when he accused the Cambridge Police
    of acting stupidly, and her code speak pursuant to now being able to be
    proud of America. I view that statement and that Mindset as an insult to
    those who died to provide a country where a Kenyan, his illegal alien
    relatives, and his alleged progeny, could come and not only live freely, but
    rise to the highest, most powerful, position in the world. Michelle Obama
    is free to hate and disparage whites because Americans of every description
    paid with their blood to ensure her right to do same.

    I have a saying, that “the only reason a person hides things, is because
    they have something to hide.” No president in history has spent over a
    million dollars to keep his records and his past sealed.

    And what the two of them have shared has been proved to be lies. He lied
    about when and how they met, he lied about his mother’s death and problems
    with insurance, Michelle lied to a crowd pursuant to nearly $500,000 bank
    stocks they inherited from his family. He has lied about his father’s
    military service, about the civil rights movement, ad nausea. He lied to
    the world about the Supreme Court in a State of the Union address. He
    berated and publicly insulted a sitting Congressman. He has surrounded
    himself with the most rabidly, radical, socialist academicians today. He
    opposed rulings that protected women and children that even Planned
    Parenthood did not seek to support. He is openly hostile to business and
    aggressively hostile to Israel . His wife treats being the First Lady as
    her personal American Express Black Card (arguably the most prestigious
    credit card in the world). I condemn them because, as people are
    suffering, losing their homes, their jobs, their retirements, he and his
    family are arrogantly showing off their life of entitlement – as he goes
    about creating and fomenting class warfare.

    I don’t like them, and I neither apologize nor retreat from my public
    condemnation of them and of his policies. We should condemn them for the
    disrespect they show our people, for his willful and unconstitutional
    actions pursuant to obeying the Constitutional parameters he is bound by,
    and his willful disregard for Congressional authority.

    Dislike for them has nothing to do with the color of their skin; it has
    everything to do with their behavior, attitudes, and policies. And I have
    open scorn for their constantly playing the race card.

    I could go on, but let me conclude with this. I condemn in the strongest
    possible terms the media for refusing to investigate them, as they did
    President Bush and President Clinton, and for refusing to label them for
    what they truly are. There is no scenario known to man, whereby a white
    president and his wife could ignore laws, flaunt their position, and lord
    over the people, as these two are permitted out of fear for their color.

    As I wrote in a syndicated column titled, “Nero In The White House” – “Never
    in my life, inside or outside of politics, have I witnessed such dishonesty
    in a political leader. He is the most mendacious political figure I have
    ever witnessed. Even by the low standards of his presidential
    predecessors, his narcissistic, contumacious arrogance is unequalled. Using
    Obama as the bar, Nero would have to be elevated to sainthood… Many in
    America wanted to be proud when the first person of color was elected
    president, but instead, they have been witness to a congenital liar, a woman
    who has been ashamed of America her entire life, failed policies,
    intimidation, and a commonality hitherto not witnessed in political leaders.
    He and his wife view their life at our expense as an entitlement – while
    America ‘s people go homeless, hungry and unemployed.”

  57. gatorbear Says:


    Don’t like Obamacare? Sorry. no one can bat 1000. But he’s doing a damn sight better than GWB did…

    Isn’t this his legacy???? Most states won’t adopt this. Even dums are saying this is a train wreck. Once again, this is his legacy. I hope my grammar is correct. By the way, this administration is paying over $8 million dollars to a PR firm to make obamacare look / sound good. This will be repealed.

  58. Me Says:

    And the GWB legacy as we know is trillions in debt due to two wars, one based on the lies his administration snookered congress into believing, and bullied his own people into doing, twin towers gone, world hated us for going into Iraq even though they all agreed Saddam needed to go, we had no right to do it, a collapsed economy that will take years, if not decades to reconstruct, having taken the most vacation (1020 days, more than any other two term president in history by far – even less than FDR who was in office for 12 years!) 1/3 of his tenure on vacation! As he ignored intel briefings (planning the next trip?) leading to 9/11, lying to everyone and bullying his own into believing the BS that the intel community was saying was BS about Iraq.

    Your grammar? I worked hard in school. You’re the one calling people dums. Don’t throw stones if you live in a glass house. Looks like you’re taking to other people’s words since your writing is, well, not quite up to snuff, and tour arguments are leaking like a sieve. (look that one up)

    Obama wants to make this a communist country? How about a government of, by and FOR the people? Or is that just for the Koch brothers? You’re spewing GOP sound bite drek that has no basis in fact; just trying to stir up negativity to make the weak arguments look plausible.

    Bush left a train wreck of a country. Dow is now at 15,000, companies are hiring, construction is slowly coming back, houses are starting to get sold again, people are feeling a little better, countries around the world are looking at us way better… Not done by a long shot, but Bush was an abomination. And the GOP has stated they want to prevent Obama from doing anything. So what? We sit and wait for years till we might get another GOP president who will continue the same actions that got us into this mess? Obama inherited it, and he is making progress DESPITE the crap like you are spewing. Imagine if the GOP was actually interested in making a positive impact?

    You’re a lemming, my friend. Using others’ words and catch phrases. You should try thinking for yourself. It’s enlightening.

  59. Me Says:

    To all of those here with their own mind… This argument with @gatorbear is pointless.

    Don’t argue with idiots. They’ll only drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.


  60. gatorbear Says:

    And you are a troll and a robot. Keep sipping the Kool-aid. And we are not friends, so do not address me as such. By the way, what is the color of the sky in your world Dorothy?? The Tin Man, Scarecrow & Cowardly Lion your allies? Toto your pooch? I am done with this ridiculous repertoire. If you think the economy is great than more power to you. Once again, the color of the sky in your world is what?? I will not respond to any other idiotic things you have to spew. Don’t need to look up sieve by the way. It is what your brain is like. Adios.

  61. Ted the Nimble Says:

    A real president doesnt go to sleep and get up the next day to campaign all the while when a US consulate is under attack and our people are being murdered. Some leader!

  62. Me Says:

    Nor does he bully and lie to an entire nation to unprovokedly attack another country (albeit admitted enemy of the US) using 9/11 as an excuse because it was in his interest. Still wondering where the hearings are on either why he lied, or why the intel was so bad that we got into Iraq on erroneous pretenses…

  63. Mill Run Says:

    since i am a smart and moderate republican, i can recognize that obama is awesome and west is a psycho loon.

  64. entitlement man Says:

    To 747 man

    Arif Alikhan Assistant Secretary for Policy Development for the U.S. Dept of Homeland Security
    Mohammed Elibiary Homeland Security Advisor
    Rashad Hussain Special envoy to the OIC – Organization of the Islamic Conference
    Salam al-Marayati – Obama Advisor founder of its current executive director of Muslim Public Affairs council
    Imam Mohammed Magid – Obama Sharia Czar – Islamic Society of North America
    Eboo Patel – Advisory council on Faith Based Neighborhood Partnerships
    These are the facts – nowhere did it say they were Democrats or Republicans- they are neither – they are here for one purpose and one purpose only -
    NOW DO YOU SEE WHY IT MATTERS HILLARY! We will ALL pay a price for this.

  65. over 100 percent turnout Says:


    9553 15201 159.12%
    2535 3984 157.16%
    3888 6103 156.97%
    432 696 161.11%
    108 155 143.52%
    170 236 138.82%
    7 12 171.43%
    4 6 150.00%



  66. Me Says:

    I am a moderate (R) as well, and I would not say Obama is quite awesome; rather he has done pretty well given what he had to work with and work against, and taking action, even sometimes drastic, is a darn sight better than watching buildings crumble, floods consume and housing (and the economy collapse) saying Brownie is doing a good job and mission accomplished. I could have voted for McCain if not for Sarah and her ineptitude, and I cringe at what damage Romney and Ryan might have done. We vote not for who is best, but who is least bad, unfortunately – that’s American politics.

    And yeah, West is a loon.

  67. Me Says:

    @over100percent: You can’t just pull numbers from a web page. You need to look into this (took me 5 mins).

    First, a quote: “We spoke to Jeffrey Scott Shapiro, a volunteer attorney for the West campaign, on Nov. 20. He said that volunteers watching the recount during the Nov. 18th weekend saw a ballot-counting machine with a yellow Precinct 93 sign on it and the tabulation tape showed 1,552 ballots. That equaled about 776 votes because there are two different ballot cards per voter.”

    So this is your 150-ish %. Really then, about 75% of voters turned out. Sounds about right.

    Second, you should check the background of your information, because it is well known that your misquote of numbers went viral and West’s campaign never got behind it because they knew it was a mistake.

    And if it were not, would YOU want a guy in office who conceded an election knowing the numbers were completely bogus?

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