Comments on: Rahm Emanuel says he’s glad Obama didn’t listen to his advice on health care http://www.postonpolitics.com/2012/10/rahm-emanuel-says-hes-glad-obama-didnt-listen-to-his-advice-on-health-care/ News about politics and government in Florida Sat, 25 May 2013 17:04:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: health care http://www.postonpolitics.com/2012/10/rahm-emanuel-says-hes-glad-obama-didnt-listen-to-his-advice-on-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-566829 health care Sun, 25 Nov 2012 01:07:20 +0000 http://www.postonpolitics.com/?p=36830#comment-566829 I do believe all of the ideas you've introduced to your post. They are very convincing and will certainly work. Still, the posts are very short for beginners. May you please lengthen them a little from subsequent time? Thanks for the post. I do believe all of the ideas you’ve introduced to your post. They are very convincing and will certainly work. Still, the posts are very short for beginners. May you please lengthen them a little from subsequent time? Thanks for the post.

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]]> By: Research done http://www.postonpolitics.com/2012/10/rahm-emanuel-says-hes-glad-obama-didnt-listen-to-his-advice-on-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-541938 Research done Sun, 28 Oct 2012 22:19:42 +0000 http://www.postonpolitics.com/?p=36830#comment-541938 Um no, the liquidated statement is true. In a 30 second search I was even able to find it. Here is the quote and source of it. "David Jones, an assistant U.S. attorney representing the U.S. Treasury, said the government was the only source of DIP financing for GM and without it the company would be forced into "immediate liquidation." The government set a July 10 deadline for GM to complete its sale." (Source: Emily Chasan and Phil Wahba reporting for Reuters in the case of General Motors Corp, U.S. Bankruptcy Court, Southern District of New York, No. 09-50026) By the way, GM filed and emerged from Ch. 11 bankruptcy. The newly reorganized GM was then backed financially from the US in what is called the bailout. Billions have been paid back already, with that 25 billion number you had is an estimate of a yet to be determined value of assets owned by the government. The value will be determined when those are sold. Um no, the liquidated statement is true. In a 30 second search I was even able to find it. Here is the quote and source of it. “David Jones, an assistant U.S. attorney representing the U.S. Treasury, said the government was the only source of DIP financing for GM and without it the company would be forced into “immediate liquidation.” The government set a July 10 deadline for GM to complete its sale.” (Source: Emily Chasan and Phil Wahba reporting for Reuters in the case of General Motors Corp, U.S. Bankruptcy Court, Southern District of New York, No. 09-50026) By the way, GM filed and emerged from Ch. 11 bankruptcy. The newly reorganized GM was then backed financially from the US in what is called the bailout. Billions have been paid back already, with that 25 billion number you had is an estimate of a yet to be determined value of assets owned by the government. The value will be determined when those are sold.

]]> By: Obama Out http://www.postonpolitics.com/2012/10/rahm-emanuel-says-hes-glad-obama-didnt-listen-to-his-advice-on-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-541734 Obama Out Sun, 28 Oct 2012 18:11:37 +0000 http://www.postonpolitics.com/?p=36830#comment-541734 Your statemnet is false that it would have been liquidated. It would have been reorganized. Chapter 13 Your statemnet is false that it would have been liquidated. It would have been reorganized. Chapter 13

]]> By: Research done http://www.postonpolitics.com/2012/10/rahm-emanuel-says-hes-glad-obama-didnt-listen-to-his-advice-on-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-541670 Research done Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:04:17 +0000 http://www.postonpolitics.com/?p=36830#comment-541670 Obama out..it is irresponsible for you to post what you did, because, while it is partially correct, it does not share the complete situation. Yes, the bailout of GM came at a cost of around 25 billion. Good job with that fact. But that is just money that is currently tied up in the bailout process, not actually lost. Infact, the US has so far recouped about half of what was extended in grants and loans to GM and Chrysler. Some of the money was repaid in cash, while the remaining interest was tied up in equity shares held by the government. So, as you can see, the money is actually lost, it is just being used in the bailout process and is being paid back, eventually in total with interest. Now, there is a part of your statement that is fundamentally wrong. The part stating "If GM had gone into bankruptcy...." The government bailout was THE ONLY way GM and Chrysler could be saved. There were no private lenders with enough capital to provide the financing for a bankruptcy. If the government had not provided this bailout, GM(or Chrysler), which couldn't raise this kind of money from private lenders, would have been forced into liquidation, its assets sold for scrap. A failed GM and Chrysler would have economic ramifications on a global reach, not only from lost jobs, but from many overseas subsidiaries of GM and Chrysler that continually turn profits, such as in S.E. Asia. While some of the things you stated are somewhat correct, much of it lacks actual insight into the big picture. Obama out..it is irresponsible for you to post what you did, because, while it is partially correct, it does not share the complete situation. Yes, the bailout of GM came at a cost of around 25 billion. Good job with that fact. But that is just money that is currently tied up in the bailout process, not actually lost. Infact, the US has so far recouped about half of what was extended in grants and loans to GM and Chrysler. Some of the money was repaid in cash, while the remaining interest was tied up in equity shares held by the government. So, as you can see, the money is actually lost, it is just being used in the bailout process and is being paid back, eventually in total with interest. Now, there is a part of your statement that is fundamentally wrong. The part stating “If GM had gone into bankruptcy….” The government bailout was THE ONLY way GM and Chrysler could be saved. There were no private lenders with enough capital to provide the financing for a bankruptcy. If the government had not provided this bailout, GM(or Chrysler), which couldn’t raise this kind of money from private lenders, would have been forced into liquidation, its assets sold for scrap. A failed GM and Chrysler would have economic ramifications on a global reach, not only from lost jobs, but from many overseas subsidiaries of GM and Chrysler that continually turn profits, such as in S.E. Asia. While some of the things you stated are somewhat correct, much of it lacks actual insight into the big picture.

]]> By: Obama Out http://www.postonpolitics.com/2012/10/rahm-emanuel-says-hes-glad-obama-didnt-listen-to-his-advice-on-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-541498 Obama Out Sun, 28 Oct 2012 12:22:23 +0000 http://www.postonpolitics.com/?p=36830#comment-541498 Saw a bumper sticker saying that Obama saved GM. The method Obama used cost Taxpayers 25 billion dollars and to be honest it didn’t have much to do with General motors. It mostly had to do with the United Auto Workers (UAW). If General Motors had gone into bankruptcy the union would have had to renegotiate more reasonable contracts because the current contracts would have been voided by the court. They would have had to come up with something more reasonable so they could stay in business. Obama protected the unions and they pay him back with millions of dollars in contribution and grateful voters. It was a good deal for Obama and the unions, but a horrible deal for the American taxpayer. The investors lost their investment and the tax payers are on the hook for 25 billion. In filing for bankruptcy General Motors would still be here either way, maybe minus a few union jobs and much leaner company. The company basically was handed over to the union and the administration hand picked the next CEO. Kind of like socialism, huh? Saw a bumper sticker saying that Obama saved GM. The method Obama used cost Taxpayers 25 billion dollars and to be honest it didn’t have much to do with General motors. It mostly had to do with the United Auto Workers (UAW). If General Motors had gone into bankruptcy the union would have had to renegotiate more reasonable contracts because the current contracts would have been voided by the court. They would have had to come up with something more reasonable so they could stay in business.
Obama protected the unions and they pay him back with millions of dollars in contribution and grateful voters. It was a good deal for Obama and the unions, but a horrible deal for the American taxpayer. The investors lost their investment and the tax payers are on the hook for 25 billion.
In filing for bankruptcy General Motors would still be here either way, maybe minus a few union jobs and much leaner company.
The company basically was handed over to the union and the administration hand picked the next CEO.
Kind of like socialism, huh?

]]> By: Kacey http://www.postonpolitics.com/2012/10/rahm-emanuel-says-hes-glad-obama-didnt-listen-to-his-advice-on-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-541114 Kacey Sun, 28 Oct 2012 02:42:17 +0000 http://www.postonpolitics.com/?p=36830#comment-541114 This past week, Trump offered to give $5 million to a charity of Obama's choice if he releases his college and passport records. Obama responded by telling his own joke about him and Trump fighting while growing up in Kenya. www.bit.ly/WRFiT5 This past week, Trump offered to give $5 million to a charity of Obama’s choice if he releases his college and passport records. Obama responded by telling his own joke about him and Trump fighting while growing up in Kenya. http://www.bit.ly/WRFiT5

]]> By: Concerned Taxpayer http://www.postonpolitics.com/2012/10/rahm-emanuel-says-hes-glad-obama-didnt-listen-to-his-advice-on-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-536404 Concerned Taxpayer Tue, 23 Oct 2012 01:01:01 +0000 http://www.postonpolitics.com/?p=36830#comment-536404 You are correct Fact. Mel is simply following Alinsky's "Rules For Radicals," numbers 5 and 13 to be precise. These guys use this formula in a tired manner as if nobody else has read it or studied their strategies. It amuses me to see them foolishly flail about with cookie-cutter community organizer methods, thinking nobody recognizes what they are doing. You are correct Fact. Mel is simply following Alinsky’s “Rules For Radicals,” numbers 5 and 13 to be precise. These guys use this formula in a tired manner as if nobody else has read it or studied their strategies. It amuses me to see them foolishly flail about with cookie-cutter community organizer methods, thinking nobody recognizes what they are doing.

]]> By: Fact http://www.postonpolitics.com/2012/10/rahm-emanuel-says-hes-glad-obama-didnt-listen-to-his-advice-on-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-536327 Fact Mon, 22 Oct 2012 23:32:23 +0000 http://www.postonpolitics.com/?p=36830#comment-536327 You're right Mel! Ignore facts, just proceed in spite of all the information! Call people names whom you disagree with you! Question their intelligence, and try intimidation to put them in their place! You’re right Mel!
Ignore facts, just proceed in spite of all the information!
Call people names whom you disagree with you!
Question their intelligence, and try intimidation to put them in their place!

]]> By: Mel http://www.postonpolitics.com/2012/10/rahm-emanuel-says-hes-glad-obama-didnt-listen-to-his-advice-on-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-536305 Mel Mon, 22 Oct 2012 22:54:16 +0000 http://www.postonpolitics.com/?p=36830#comment-536305 What the hell is wrong with you people . You can disagree with rahm and that's fine . Don't talk about Chicago as if you know anything . He is working towards a better city . Just to put it back on your small minded BS. The people you seemed to elect are the cause of what's wrong with the world . Instead of wasting time ripping rahm who is helping inner city kids to learn , control gangs , and overhaul old outdated systems . You losers get a life and deal with your own. Backyard go write republicans and tea party freaks who created this economy . Thanks What the hell is wrong with you people . You can disagree with rahm and that’s fine . Don’t talk about Chicago as if you know anything . He is working towards a better city . Just to put it back on your small minded BS. The people you seemed to elect are the cause of what’s wrong with the world . Instead of wasting time ripping rahm who is helping inner city kids to learn , control gangs , and overhaul old outdated systems . You losers get a life and deal with your own. Backyard go write republicans and tea party freaks who created this economy . Thanks

]]> By: Terry L. http://www.postonpolitics.com/2012/10/rahm-emanuel-says-hes-glad-obama-didnt-listen-to-his-advice-on-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-536267 Terry L. Mon, 22 Oct 2012 21:49:24 +0000 http://www.postonpolitics.com/?p=36830#comment-536267 I would be upset if my mayor was spending time somewhere else other than the City he was elected to serve, especially if the murder rate is what it currently is in Chicago. There are over 400 deaths so far this year in the city of Chicago, and he is down here? It's the same situation with Bill Nelson...elected to serve the state of Florida, and NASA is being dis-mantled, unemployment is higher than ever recorded, people and businesses leaving that state at a higher rate than ever before, and all the while, gas, food and property taxes are going through the roof, and Bill Nelson is out campaigning for the lady democrat who was defeated by Scott Brown. Here's a tip for elected officials, serve those who elect you. I would be upset if my mayor was spending time somewhere else other than the City he was elected to serve, especially if the murder rate is what it currently is in Chicago. There are over 400 deaths so far this year in the city of Chicago, and he is down here?
It’s the same situation with Bill Nelson…elected to serve the state of Florida, and NASA is being dis-mantled, unemployment is higher than ever recorded, people and businesses leaving that state at a higher rate than ever before, and all the while, gas, food and property taxes are going through the roof, and Bill Nelson is out campaigning for the lady democrat who was defeated by Scott Brown.
Here’s a tip for elected officials, serve those who elect you.

]]> By: Concerned Taxpayer http://www.postonpolitics.com/2012/10/rahm-emanuel-says-hes-glad-obama-didnt-listen-to-his-advice-on-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-536258 Concerned Taxpayer Mon, 22 Oct 2012 21:40:23 +0000 http://www.postonpolitics.com/?p=36830#comment-536258 "In 2012, Chicago has the highest murder rate in the Alpha world cities with 19.4 murders per 100,000. This rate is more than triple New York (6.0) and more than double Los Angeles (7.5), and ahead of Mexico City, Moscow, and São Paulo. Chicago is projected to have 505 homicides for the year which would be a 16% increase from 2011." Edward McClelland, (July 31, 2012) All under the careful hand of Mayor Rahm Emanuel. Another great Democrat politician and trusted Obama friend at work. “In 2012, Chicago has the highest murder rate in the Alpha world cities with 19.4 murders per 100,000. This rate is more than triple New York (6.0) and more than double Los Angeles (7.5), and ahead of Mexico City, Moscow, and São Paulo. Chicago is projected to have 505 homicides for the year which would be a 16% increase from 2011.”
Edward McClelland, (July 31, 2012)

All under the careful hand of Mayor Rahm Emanuel. Another great Democrat politician and trusted Obama friend at work.

]]> By: Voter http://www.postonpolitics.com/2012/10/rahm-emanuel-says-hes-glad-obama-didnt-listen-to-his-advice-on-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-536257 Voter Mon, 22 Oct 2012 21:39:28 +0000 http://www.postonpolitics.com/?p=36830#comment-536257 He had to leave Chicago due all those murders that is happening in the city. Rahm is crook. Needs to be with the rest of the crooks in Palm Beach. He had to leave Chicago due all those murders that is happening in the city. Rahm is crook. Needs to be with the rest of the crooks in Palm Beach.

]]> By: BustedUpGrunt http://www.postonpolitics.com/2012/10/rahm-emanuel-says-hes-glad-obama-didnt-listen-to-his-advice-on-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-536199 BustedUpGrunt Mon, 22 Oct 2012 20:05:17 +0000 http://www.postonpolitics.com/?p=36830#comment-536199 Whie we were going up into Kuwait in 91 to kick Sadaam out of Kuwait, the traitor Rahm Emanuel was in a green Israeli Defense Force uniform serving with their Mahal or Sar-El volunteer force fixing military equipment. With a record like that, Emanuel would make a perfect Romney advisor, putting service to Israel and its' needs first. Deport all those traitors to the land they are most loyal to and love the most,....Israel. Whie we were going up into Kuwait in 91 to kick Sadaam out of Kuwait, the traitor Rahm Emanuel was in a green Israeli Defense Force uniform serving with their Mahal or Sar-El volunteer force fixing military equipment. With a record like that, Emanuel would make a perfect Romney advisor, putting service to Israel and its’ needs first.
Deport all those traitors to the land they are most loyal to and love the most,….Israel.

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