Comments on: Murphy ad attacks West’s military record

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By: Bito

Bito — Wed, 03 Oct 2012 10:21:04 +0000

@nemo, How do you know I havent been to war? Goes to show youre ignorance,you DO have to follow the rules,and you have to set an example, if that is the way he shows his example, you are just as dillusional as he is,once again you run youre mouth without the FACTS.I did serve my coutry and have an honorable discharge, DID YOU SERVE? Based on youre comments it seems that you didnt and dont have a clue of military conduct.

By: nemo

nemo — Wed, 03 Oct 2012 04:48:36 +0000

So Bito,

Because West fired a gun near some guy’s head, your in a snit, because it’s a clear violation of the Geneva Convention. Had you ever been to war you would know how foolish you sound. This is mens lives we are speaking of, American lives, and you think we should base our actions on some set of rules. There is only one rule in war…don’t get killed, and Col. West did his best to be sure his men survived.

By: Jupiter Guy

Jupiter Guy — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 23:43:45 +0000

As an honorably discharged veteran I am disgusted with mr. west. His actions are those of a coward, not someone who is supposed to be an officer and a gentleman. Why he isn’t in prison I don’t think anyone will ever know, but people need to know that he is not an honorable man.

By: BustedUpGrunt

BustedUpGrunt — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 23:14:40 +0000

West must release his DD214 Discharge Certificate to show voters what Characterization of Discharge the Army granted West on his retirement, in lieu of a General Court Martial.

Saying it won’t do; the proof is in seeing it.
This, a lesson from West’s stated hero, Ronald Reagan who said “Trust, but Verify”.

By: LOL @ West

LOL @ West — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 23:13:20 +0000

ALLEN WEST’S RECORD AT POLITIFACT:

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/allen-west/statements/

“Currently we have some 40-45% of Americans who are not paying any taxes.” = MOSTLY FALSE

“If you look at the application for a security clearance, I have a clearance that even the president of the United States cannot obtain because of my background.” = PANTS ON FIRE LIE

“We had an amendment in the health care law that said the federal government is going to take over education.” = FALSE “China owns about 29 percent of (the U.S.) debt.” = FALSE

“This is the first time in the history that we’ve had the raising of a debt limit also with spending cuts.” = FALSE

“In the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, it was the Democrats who cut $500 billion from Medicare. And they also put in place the Independent Payment Advisory Board, 15 unelected bureaucrats, which will be making decisions about health care for our seniors and for all Americans.” = MOSTLY FALSE

The EPA “wants to hire 230,000 new government regulators that will cost the taxpayer $21 billion.” = FALSE

About 78 to 81 House Democrats “are members of the Communist Party. … It’s called the Congressional Progressive Caucus.” = PANTS ON FIRE LIE

An “Obamacare slush fund” paid to spay and neuter dogs and cats, then counted it as an “anti-obesity campaign.” = FALSE

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LOL @ West!!!

It’s been a fun two years, following Allen West’s hilarious and deeply insane statements. But time’s up. And it’s time to get to work solving this country’s problems! Something Allen West will NEVER do because the policies he supports are WAY out of the mainstream.

VOTE for PATRICK MURPHY and VOTE EARLY!

By: oletime11B

oletime11B — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 21:54:38 +0000

so many west supporters don’t know how wrong he really was, and how he should get a courtmartial…like any enlisted guy should have. Theyre hypnotized by a guy who wore a uniform because they failed to serve themselves. Guilty consciences.

By: Gloria Schmidt

Gloria Schmidt — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 21:47:18 +0000

West had every right to bring up the differences between he and Murphy. Allen West is a leader and will win his seat in Congress.

By: SOME of the rest of the story

SOME of the rest of the story — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 21:45:23 +0000

All Iraqis know the best way to eliminate your Iraqi enemy, or the guy you owe money to, or your lousy boss, or the neighbor you’re feuding with, etc, is to simply tell the Americans that “he’s a terrorist”. Appears that West bought that anonymous tip, grabbed Hamoodi, did the thumping and mock execution deed, and later saw Hamoodi walk free when it was clear the terrorist tip was just a bogus local grudge. No other Iraqis were detained nor any weapons uncovered as a result of West’s actions. Since negatives can’t be proven when they don’t happen, to say that a specific Hamoodi-orchestrated terrorist action was prevented is impossible to prove. West quickly realized his mistake and rightfully fell on his sword by admitting to his superiors of the action he took. Army knew West’s loose cannon conduct sent the message to every US soldier in a foreign land that it’s OK to charge outside the wire on a mere rumor from an unknown source and go rogue. EVERY US military leader and soldier had a price on his head in Iraq, but none did what West did. Worse yet, West goes outside the wire with a shoestring force, with no reaction force on call, no communications with the COC, and set himself up for another potential Blackhawk Down nightmare if Hamoodi was in fact dirty and had backup in ambush – exactly like West purported him to be beforehand. THAT’s what really got him canned by the Army! Great initiative, but stupid, amateurish judgment.
Professionals just don’t conduct half-cocked, undermanned, undergunned, no planning, no coordination freelancing ops against terrorist cells on the basis of an anonymous tip. His knee-jerk, ready-fire-aim manner of taking action makes ya wonder how he’d act if he had a say on whether or not we go to war again. Scary.

By: Mike

Mike — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 21:41:50 +0000

#56 We both value the First Amendment and it is nice to see how little you value your fellow Americans.
I ask you to consider that the energetic dislike you appear to have for your fellow Americans is likely limited to posting on the Web.
If you treated people like you type you would quickly find the world a lonely place.
Every voter has the right to vote for the candidate of their choice.
If your candidate wins be happy, if your candidate loses, understand that this year a majority determined there was a better candidate.
Remember in 2008 132 million Americans voted. In 2010 89 million did.
That simly means that when people lots of don’t vote Republicans are favored.
It doesn’t mean they are a majority.

By: SouthPB

SouthPB — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 21:02:41 +0000

Allen West “disobeyed laws, ignored orders … and mortgaged future discipline in his unit. Without discipline, there is no trust, no cohesion, and no higher purpose for which we fight.”

Not my words, but those of the US Army.

Allen West cannot seem to handle the truth.

By: Jay S

Jay S — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 20:56:32 +0000

Every letter excusing West’s bizarre and sadistic behavior turns another independent against him, so keep it up, boys. Let that hate show!

Come November 7th, you and your hero can drown your sorrows in booze together.

By: uptown girl

uptown girl — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 20:45:05 +0000

@ David S. Levine-”a coalition of scum, slime, filth, vermin and manure!” That sounds a lot like the Gov. Rick Scott!!! What do ya think? He’s your party affiliation – the Re-THUG-licans!!

By: Yelowff455@yhffgg44.om

Yelowff455@yhffgg44.om — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 20:34:00 +0000

The accounts of West’s military cowardice/bad judgment in this incident are all online. Just google it. West is a coward. Pure yellow.

By: David S. Levine, Hobe Sound

David S. Levine, Hobe Sound — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 20:24:08 +0000

The twerp Murphy isn’t fit to shine Col. West’s shoes and should he attempt to do so shuld be given a swift kick in the face! the Democ-rats writing here are typical of what the Democ-rat Party has become–agents of every enemy of the United States because every enemy of the United States has a friend in the Democ-rat Party–a coalition of scum, slime, filth, vermin and manure! the fact that its primary electorate nominated a drunk bum for Congress and hasn’t abandoned him only goes to prove that point.

By: RENEGADE

RENEGADE — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 20:22:42 +0000

MLB..ROFLMAO!!!!!

Yeah, West says’ “there is not one person in the room I wouldn’t sacrifice my life for”

If West was so concerned about his fellow Americans he would have pointed that gun at his own head!!!

By: uptown girl

uptown girl — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 20:21:00 +0000

Agree w/#38Mike-West wouldn’t take the risk because he knows he’d be doin time right now!! But then again, he would’ve started with the race card thing, so all in all, he got his entitlement!!! Because if it were someone else, they’d be doin time. It appalls me that our military holds its’ Enlisted to a higher standard than its’ Officers that are supposed to be the LEADERS!! Guess it’s that ole, “Do as I say and not as I do” thing. At the time West joined the service, the Army accepted anyone that couldn’t get into the upper echelon services. People do show their true colors!!! All that said, I’m not saying Murphy is qualified either!

By: MLB

MLB — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 20:18:58 +0000

West must go! Enough said. Two years of nothing but getting in the way of progress. Bye-bye, West!! Go back to Georgia and run for office in that great state. We have enough whack jobs of our own to control.

By: LicenseToSteal

LicenseToSteal — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 20:11:15 +0000

Poor liberal Murphy. The truth hurts! Whaaaaa!

By: West the coward

West the coward — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 20:10:40 +0000

West is a psycho phony. No military hero. A coward. The protect his men thing is b s made up to spin the actions of a mentally unstable freak? Disgracing his country.

By: Al

Al — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 20:10:28 +0000

If I were in battle I would certainly want West with me.Trying to save lives is a good thing. We know from 911 how good our intelligence gathering is, or not. West did what he had to do based on the best information available. In times like that waiting around is not an option, unless of course you are drunk. It would appear the Democrats are desperate and without a clue as to the public response.

By: fairandbalanced

fairandbalanced — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 20:02:09 +0000

Want the real story? Here is is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnrIppYp8y4&feature=youtu.be

By: SouthPB

SouthPB — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 19:54:05 +0000

Hank–

Torture is torture.

The fact is Yahya Hamoodi was ultimately released by the US Army without any charges. No weapons or plans of attack were ever found as a result of the “intelligence” Mr. West elicited at the barrel of a gun. It is doubtful that the supposed “ambush” that Mr. West feared was ever actually going to take place.

Mr. West was not a military intelligence officer and had no business doing what he did. His actions helped perpetuate the notion amongst the Iraqi population that the Americans were not liberators but occupiers. That in part made things infinitely more difficult for our men on the ground in coming years.

These are all facts documented in official Army reports.

The bottom line is that your “true American hero” tortured an innocent human being. And that’s a stain that ought to be placed on Mr. West for the rest of his life.

By: HankS

HankS — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 19:46:07 +0000

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnrIppYp8y4&feature=youtu.be

By: HankS

HankS — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 19:44:35 +0000

Congressman West was honorably discharged from the US Army with full benefits. LTC West knew that the lives of his men were in danger, and was fully aware that his actions could impact his career with the military. LTC West is a true American hero. His most-famous quote of the entire incident: “If it’s about the lives of my soldiers at stake, I’d go through hell with a gasoline can.”

There’s a YouTube video that describes the incident at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnrIpp...

Congressman Allen West is the real deal.

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ricardus — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 19:39:31 +0000

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By: Jupiter resident

Jupiter resident — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 19:38:56 +0000

I am registered as a no party affiliation and have had a lot of discussions about this race. Like most of my friends, I will be voting for Congressman West because even though I have not always agreed with him at least he has some experience in leadership. Patrick Murphy on the other hand, comes across as an empty suit with a family trying to buy an election. He should run for a local election first so at least the voter knows what they are getting.

By: SouthPB

SouthPB — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 19:35:06 +0000

“Now if you shoot my dog, I’ma kill yo’ cat/Just the unwritten laws in rap….”–Jay-Z

Allen West wanted to bring up assaulting police officers in 2003. It’s all fair game.

One person, a 19 year old kid, gets thrown out of a bar and “verbally assaults” (read: curses at) a police officer.

The other person, a 42 year old Lieutenant Colonel, has an Iraqi police officer seized, beaten, and then conducts a mock execution (a recognized form of TORTURE) on the Iraqi police officer. The information illicited from this mock execution turns out to be completely useless.

Which one of these offenses speaks more towards the character of the man running for office? Especially when the man has a notorious reputation for acting aggressively and without consideration for his fellow human beings?

One man got thrown out of a bar; the other man, for all intents and purposes, got thrown out of the Army.