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New Obama ad reminds voters of economic woes ‘before THIS president took the oath’

by George Bennett | May 7th, 2012

Obama’s new “Go” ad, above, and Reagan’s 1984 “It’s Morning In America” spot.

President Obama‘s reelection campaign isn’t declaring that “it’s morning in America” as Ronald Reagan did in 1984, but a new 60-second ad airing in Florida and eight other swing states proclaims that “we’re coming back.”

Reagan’s memorable reelection ad highlighted America’s recovery from recession and concludes: “Under the leadership of President Reagan, our country is prouder and stronger and better. Why would we ever want to return to where we were less than four short years ago?”

Obama’s ad puts the comparison to the previous administration at the beginning. The first quarter of it details the economic meltdown that took place in 2008 — “all before this president (emphasis in the ad) took the oath.” Later, the narrator says, “We’re not there yet. It’s still too hard for too many. But we’re coming back.”

The ad also trumpets the killing of Osama bin Laden, the withdrawal of troops from the unpopular war in Iraq and the auto industry bailouts as successes.

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59 Responses to “New Obama ad reminds voters of economic woes ‘before THIS president took the oath’”

  1. Balanced Approach Says:

    Yes, there were economic problems before Obama became President, but one must remember, that the democrats under Pelosi and Reid, controlled the House and Senate during Bush’s last years in office.

    They, Pelosi and Reid, are complicit in the poor economics that surfaced in 2008. Two thirds of the government was controlled by democrats. Congress made the laws and budgets were put together by Senate and Congress-controlled by Nancy and Harry.

    Obama and the democrats in 2008 had total democrat control-Pelosi/Reid. Look what that total control did to our country.

    After 3 and half years the US economy is still bogged down and the citizens have tremendous debt hanging over their heads.

    THAT DEBT AND CURRENT CONDITIONS ARE DEMOCRATS’ FAULT.

    Mitt Romney is a middle of the road guy. He has demonstrated his ability to lead and compromise. His history with turning around failed companies, which can be salvaged, is just what America needs.
    His sensitivity to the people has been demonstrated.

    Obama based his ObamaCare on RomneyCare in MA. It was MA which enacted healthcare, a state’s right to do that.

    Mitt Romney can lead and WORK with democrats, Obama has miserably demonstrated an inability to lead and WORK with Republicans.

    When Obama said the democrats took a shellacking in 2010, he did nothing to work with Republicans and compromise.

    An unbalanced country, only democrat ideas, is not good. A country with only republican ideas, is not good.

    A balanced moderate approach doing what is good for the people and for the businesses to spur the economy is what is needed.

    Mitt Romney can deliver that. Barack obama has proven he is unable to do that.

  2. Melissa Says:

    ere’s a REALLY GOOD history lesson….pay very close attention, there will be a test in November 2012 !!!
    January 3rd, 2007

    The day the democrats took over was not January 22nd 2009, it was
    actually January 3rd 2007, that’s the day the Democrats took over the
    House of Representatives and the Senate…the start of the 110th
    Congress. The Democratic Party controlled a majority in both chambers
    for the first time since the end of the 103rd Congress in 1995.
    For those who are listening to the liberals, propagating the fallacy
    that everything is “Bush’s Fault”, think about this:

    January 3rd, 2007 was the day the Democrats took over the Senate and the Congress:
    At the time:
    1. The DOW Jones closed at 12,621.77
    2. The GDP for the previous quarter was 3.5%
    3. The Unemployment rate was 4.6%
    4. George Bush’s Economic policies SET A RECORD of 52 STRAIGHT MONTHS of JOB CREATION!

    Remember the day:
    1. January 3rd, 2007 was the day that Barney Frank took over the
    House Financial Services Committee and Chris Dodd took over the Senate
    Banking Committee.
    2. The economic meltdown that happened 15 months later was in what part of
    the economy? BANKING AND FINANCIAL SERVICES!
    3. Thank Congress for taking us from 13,000 DOW, 3.5 GDP and 4.6%
    Unemployment to this CRISIS by dumping 5-6 TRILLION Dollars of toxic
    loans on the economy from YOUR Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac fiasco’s!
    (BTW: Bush asked Congress 17 TIMES to stop Fannie & Freddie – starting
    in 2001, because it was financially risky for the U.S. economy…but, no one would listen!!!).
    And, who was it who took the THIRD highest pay-off from Fannie Mae AND Freddie Mac? OBAMA.

    And, who fought against reforming Fannie and Freddie? OBAMA and his Democratic Congress..
    So when someone tries to blame Bush… REMEMBER JANUARY 3rd, 2007….

  3. Tea Lady Says:

    We need to stop the Blame Game, and get meaningful TAX RELIEF passed for America’s job creators! It doesn’t matter which political party gets the job done .. as long as it gets done!

    History proves: TAX RELIEF = more confident job creators = more jobs!!

    Really, it is that simple! =)

  4. mightyoak Says:

    Sorry Obama, you’re out of excuses. You ran on the premise that you would get the economy moving. But what did he do the first 2 years? Health care, health care, health care. Attention Obama-
    “It’s the economy, stupid!”

  5. american man Says:

    melissa – Good work – FINALLY someone does some homework and the facts come out. I wonder how the great mesiah will spin this one. Notice that in his ad he doesn’t speak about his slamming of his healthcare bill down our throats that will ultimately lead to the Socialist agenda he’s pushing. Where is his calming tone on how well he has done and how many people he has put back to work. notice how he doesn’t have a plan but just a bunch of cheerleading, knuckle wiping love for himself. I truly hope, (yes – HOPE), that real people will come out in November and CHANGE this guy and his movement.

  6. Four More Years Says:

    Does the above poster think we don’t remember the Bush Administration?

    LOL!

    Obama is going to win because not only is the economy on its way back, but it is on its way back despite the apocalyptic damage from Bush’s tenure as President AND despite the Republican Party of NO’s insistence on forcing the economy to fail so they can post meaningless screeds like the above commenter.

    And by the way…

    “Balanced Approach” is the new “Compassionate Conservative”…

    Remember that?

    “Compassionate Conservative” led to the most fiercely divisive and failed presidency in modern history.

    How is that “Compassionate Conservative” label doing these days?

    Right… exactly.

    President Obama not only deserves re-election, he deserves a special medal of honor for defending the Middle Class from the Republican Party.

  7. Four More Years Says:

    LOL @ the other posters…

    The right wing lunatics have been promoting this argument over chain emails for years and whenever they bring up the fact that the Democrats took Congress in 2007, I ask the following questions:

    1) What did the Democrats pass and President Bush signed into law in 2007 that “caused” the economic crash?

    2) Why don’t you ever list specifics of which bill caused which problem?

    3) Isn’t it funny how every single problem that occurred during the 8 years of George Bush’s presidency — which included 6 YEARS OF TOTAL REPUBLICAN CONTROL — is the Democrats’ fault?

    It is obvious what is happening here.

    The Republican Party has completely given up on using facts and reality to make their case.

    Why?

    Look at the Ryan Plan.

    Look at how it would DECIMATE the Middle Class.

    Look at how it would BENEFIT the already extremely wealthy and the corporate special interests.

    Look at how literally EVERY SINGLE MEMBER OF THE GOP supports it.

    You simply cannot TRUST the Republicans, whether it is Mitt Romney or the lowest paid RNC shill on a blog like the right wing liars posting above.

  8. Francisco Says:

    My Dad always said “No one cares about your best efforts. They want results”
    Sorry Obama, I cannot afford four more years of blame. your fired..

  9. Tina Says:

    Obama will not receive
    my vote this time.. I was better off under the last idiot..

  10. Four More Years Says:

    Francisco,

    Did your daddy tell you to lie when you don’t like the results?

    You’re just another Rush Limbaugh dittohead.

    Just another Republican willing to lie for politics.

    Just another Republican who puts politics over the good of the country.

    SHAME ON YOU.

    SHAME ON GOP LIARS.

    WHY DON’T YOU TELL THE TRUTH?

    BECAUSE YOU CANNOT CAMPAIGN ON THE TRUTH WHEN THE TRUTH KILLS YOUR POLITICAL MISINFORMATION.

  11. Rob Says:

    All I remember is all this President promised he would have done by now. NOT!!!

  12. Four More Years Says:

    Isn’t it amazing that the Republicans who post here NEVER MENTION THE MIDDLE CLASS?

    They NEVER mention policies they support.

    They NEVER mention any facts on the issues.

    All they do is post the same bumper-sticker talking points they heard on the Boob Tube or on Talk Radio.

    MISINFORMATION.

    It’s all they have left.

    Don’t trust a SINGLE Republican.

    They could care less about the Middle Class.

    President Obama on the other hand is providing the LAST DEFENSE of the Middle Class from the Wall Street vultures.

    It IS a make or break moment for the Middle Class.

    We NEED to support the Middle Class as a country or we will be doomed to the kind of plutocracy that will effectively END DEMOCRACY in this country.

    Wall Street already buys politicians.

    The GOP wants to make it even worse.

    But somehow you never hear anything about it from the Republicans posting here, nor the Republican candidates.

    Somehow — gee isn’t it odd — that EVERYTHING gets blamed on President Obama and yet they say they are “tired of the blaming”!!! LOL! The Republican message could not be more incoherent and fraudulent.

  13. JDW Says:

    Four years in and Obama still blames the predecessor. 9/11 happened just 9 months into Bush’s presidency after eight years of Clinton and you never heard Bush blame Clinton once. For the record – unemployment in 2006 was 4.6% when the Democrats took over the congress and the senate.

  14. Debbie Says:

    My choices are Obama or Mitt. I say Mitt but all of his speeches are now touting GWBush policies. Economically in addition to GWB Mitt has added in the Ryan plan. The economy is still moving very slow but it is moving and making progress. I cannot vote in good conscience to return to GWBush or trickle down economics. It has not worked 3 times now and I’m not willing to vote trickle down for a 4th time. I may not vote Obama but I know for sure I will not vote Romney and trickle down.

  15. Four More Years Says:

    LOL!!!!

    Look at THIS!

    Paul Ryan has a new plan to dramatically slash aid to the poor…

    …TO PROTECT MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX CONTRACTORS!

    The plan also kills financial reforms that were put in place to defend against companies being Too Big To Fail. The GOP wants to go back to the days of Too Big To Fail so that if banks fail the taxpayer will be back on the hook for MORE BAILOUTS!!!

    LOL! It is so totally anti-American that it is literally laughable.

    Here is the article. READ IT ALL.

    House Republicans target social cuts to shield military

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/07/us-usa-budget-cuts-idUSBRE84604820120507

  16. P13 Says:

    Yup. Things were bad four years ago. I’d never vote for GW Bush if he was allowed to run again. Things are still bad, so I’m not voting for Barack Obama either. I don’t want to hear that things are slightly better. Of course they are, there was nowhere to go but up…it’s the rate at which we’re going up that’s the real problem.

    We get it, Bush was a bad president. He’s gone now. The man doesn’t even comment on today’s politics. He did what former presidents are supposed to do…fade from the spotlight and let the next president do his job.

    Frankly, I don’t think Obama fails because of his policies. I think he fails because he’s not a strong leader who can unite people behind his ideas. No one wants to follow a man who takes all the credit when things that go well and points fingers at everyone but himself when things go wrong.

  17. Jake Jabbs Says:

    It is funny watching Republicans blaming Obama for all their problems.

    You are all equally loud, programmed, and off base. You come up with every excuse you can to spread hate, hate, and more hate at Obama through your churches, chain letters, fox news, and close minded little towns.

    Anyone who makes life more difficult for the kind of people you are and represent will have my vote forever.

  18. Tax the Rich Says:

    “”"he’s not a strong leader who can unite people behind his ideas”"”

    Yet another Republican liar. Everyone knows the GOP committed to making Obama a one-term President. They got together on Obama’s INAUGURATION DAY and plotted a way to take him down…

    Their plan… Oppose Everything.

    Deny Obama ANY victories.

    And it worked.

    They denied him political victories. And in so doing, they prevented a stronger recovery.

    If that is something you want to hang your hat on, then you are admitting that you believe more in party politics than you do in the betterment of AMERICA.

    SHAME ON THE GOP for putting partisanship over what is best for the country.

  19. P13 Says:

    Tax the Rich:

    How does that make me a “liar?” It’s my opinion.

    More to the point…if Pres. Obama is a man that will gain no support from Republicans in Congress, as you say and as has been seen already, why would we send him back to…continue to get no support from Congress? Obviously he can’t get the support he needs to get the things done that need to get done.

    That is what I meant by “he is not a strong leader who can unite people behind his ideas.”

    Compare this to Clinton. He had his share of showdowns with hostile Republicans in Congress. But he was an effective enough leader to strike compromises when necessary, outmaneuver political opponents when necessary, and and he got his signature on popular pieces of legislation, with the support of those same hostile Republicans. He understood politics on a much higher level than Obama, and was a better leader because of it.

  20. Tax the Rich Says:

    Maybe you don’t understand.

    They committed to denying Obama FROM DAY 1.

    Not just denying his policies.

    DENYING HIM.

    DENYING HIS PRESIDENCY.

    This did not happen under Clinton and everyone knows it.

    You’re a liar because you attribute Obama’s failure to unite Republicans as a failure of leadership, but the entire world knows that the GOP COMMITTED to denying him from day 1. No matter what Obama did, they denied him. No matter how favorable the policies would be for America, they denied him. No matter what percentage of the American people supported his policies, they denied him. No matter how many times he tried to get them to come to the table, they DENIED him!

    Look at the stimulus.

    EVERY SINGLE REPUBLICAN IN THE HOUSE VOTED AGAINST IT!

    Look at the health care bill.

    EVERY SINGLE REPUBLICAN VOTED AGAINST IT.

    Look at the financial reform bill.

    ONLY 3 GOP VOTES FOR IT.

    On bill after bill after bill the Republicans stuck together as part of their POLITICAL strategy.

    On issue after issue the GOP said NO. NO NO NO.

    NO solutions.
    NO compromise.
    NO votes.
    NO progress.

    NO NO NO.

    And you have the GALL to blame President Obama’s leadership?

    Really?

    Wake up!

  21. Kim Says:

    Please name 5 good things Obama has done in the past 3 1/2 years…

    I bet you can’t.. I’m not a fan of Romney, But I will not vote for Obama again..

  22. Tax the Rich Says:

    Just read this article:

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/07/us-usa-budget-cuts-idUSBRE84604820120507

    It says it in plain black and white.

    The GOP wants to slash the social safety net to benefit the military industrial complex.

    They aren’t reducing spending.

    They aren’t cutting the deficit.

    They are SHIFTING MONEY from the poor and the Middle Class TO defense contractors.

    Tucked into the bill is a provision putting the American people back on the hook for BAILOUTS!

    It’s time for Republican VOTERS out there to actually look at what the GOP is proposing before rubber stamping it with your hollow slogans.

    LOOK AT WHAT THEY ARE *ACTUALLY* DOING!

    Screwing the poor.
    Benefiting military contractors at the expense of the American people.
    Benefiting the big Too Big To Fail banks at the expense of a stable economy.

    LOOK! READ THE ARTICLE LINKED ABOVE!

    IT IS UNDENIABLE!

    This is THEIR plan!

  23. P13 Says:

    Let me ask you something…when George W. Bush tried to do Social Security reform and immigration reform, and every Democrat lined up against those policies, did you see that as Democrats implementing a political strategy to deny Bush himself, or did you see it as Democrats uniting to oppose bad policy? Do you think maybe Republicans doing the same thing might have to do with the policies themselves being non-starters for Republicans?

    Percentage of Americans supporting the policies? The stimulus and healthcare? The majority of people OPPOSED these policies. Maybe you supported them, but pushing the two of those through with little support is exactly why the Democrats lost the House in the 2010 mid-term elections and exactly why Scott Brown is currently sitting in “Ted Kennedy’s seat.”

    Digging your heels in and denying that the mid-term elections ever happened or distorting what the message people were sending was is exactly why there will continue to be gridlock. Yes, given Obama’s refusal to adapt to that or even acknowledge it…I have the “gall to blame Pres. Obama’s leadership.”

    It’s very similar to how the people reacted to Clinton in 1994. They opposed Hillarycare, and let him know by handing the House to the Republicans in the ’94 mid-term elections. Know what the difference between Clinton and Obama is? Clinton recognized that he had to shift gears after that. He didn’t kick and scream and continue saying it was all Republicans’ fault. He signed Republican-backed legislation, and in exchange got to include policies he wanted to pursue. As a result, his approval numbers skyrocketed, sending him to an easy re-election in ’96. Obama could learn a lot from Clinton, rather than just using him as a re-election prop.

  24. @Kim Says:

    @Kim

    1. Ended the Iraq War
    2. Killed Bin Laden
    3. Saved the American Auto Industry
    4. Passed health care reform, something every president since TR has tried and failed)to do.
    5. Saved the Banking System
    6. 2 straight years of positive job numbers.
    7. Cut the payroll tax on middle income earners
    8. Passed the stimulus, preventing a second Great Depression.

    Should I go on?

  25. Tax the Rich Says:

    “”"when George W. Bush tried to do Social Security reform and immigration reform, and every Democrat lined up against those policies, did you see that as Democrats implementing a political strategy to deny Bush himself, or did you see it as Democrats uniting to oppose bad policy?”"”

    Are you SERIOUS?

    Bush wanted to hand Social Security over to WALL STREET.

    He went on a SIXTY-DAY TOUR OF THE UNITED STATES promoting this proposal.

    And it was SO unpopular that I’m not sure it even got to a vote. And that is with BOTH houses of Congress controlled by the Republicans.

    The opposition wasn’t that Bush is a Kenyan Marxist like the opposition to Obama is saying.

    The opposition was based on the FACT that it is absurd to hand over Social Security to Wall Street!!!

    How in the world can you not see the difference?!?!

    “”"Do you think maybe Republicans doing the same thing might have to do with the policies themselves being non-starters for Republicans?”"”

    OMG!

    Are you serious?

    THEY HAVE ***ADMITTED*** MULTIPLE TIMES THAT DENYING OBAMA WAS THEIR STRATEGY!

    WAKE – UP!!!

  26. @Kim Says:

    1. Bush set withdrawal date for iraq..
    2. U.S. Seals killed OBL..
    3. Ford didn’t need use a bailout..
    4. will obamacare be declared unconstitutional
    5. How many Banks went under on Obama’s watch?
    7 Keep GWB tax plan..
    8. So did GWB..

    BTW, Gitmo still open?

  27. LaQuishaNiqua Jones Says:

    Romney will win. The quiet, unheard voters will rise up and vote this absolute nightmare out of office. One and done. Hes useless as a leader but great as a divider.

  28. Tax the Rich Says:

    Obama will win. The quiet, unheard voters will rise up and vote this absolute savior of the Middle Class into office for a second term. Four more years. Hes a great leader but the GOP denied his Presidency from day 1.

  29. @LaQuishaNiqua Jones Says:

    Keep up the good work! Your racist CRAP(like the name u use)just keeps up the votes for President Obama!

    YOU ARE A FOOL! LOLOLOL

  30. Irish Mike Says:

    These are all facts: The Dems had enough votes to filibuster anything GWB wanted to do from 2001-2007. Dems have controlled the House and Senate since 2007, and had a filibuster proof majority in Senate from 2009-2010, when the Dems lost Ted Kennedy’s seat. In the 2010 elections, voters clearly and decisively voted against Dems. Despite the stimulus and Dems repeated promises of unemployment under 8% and Recovery Summer, economic growth is stagnant, and unemployment remains high.

    And what is Mr. Obama’s solution for the future (Hope & Change 2.0)? Tax the rich, finance more green energy initiatives, and make the tax code more complex to favor industries and companies that the Administration determines are worthy. And blame anything bad on someone else (Bush, BP, tsunamis, “headwinds”, insurance companies, market for solar panels, Warren Buffett, oil speculators, outsourcing, un-shovel ready jobs, Boehner, Ryan, the Tea Party, Fox News, …)

  31. Tax the Rich Says:

    Irish Mike = just another Republican liar.

    They must be terrified that Obama is going to win a second term.

  32. Irish Mike Says:

    Where is you “evidence” that I am a “liar”? Typical name calling liberal.

    As Jack Nicholson might tell you, you can’t handle the truth!

  33. Same Ole, Same Ole Says:

    The new Obama slogan has long ties to Marxism, socialism

    The Obama campaign apparently didn’t look backwards into history when selecting its new campaign slogan, “Forward” — a word with a long and rich association with European Marxism.

    Many Communist and radical publications and entities throughout the 19th and 20th centuries had the name “Forward!” or its foreign cognates. Wikipedia has an entire section called “Forward (generic name of socialist publications).”

    “The name Forward carries a special meaning in socialist political terminology. It has been frequently used as a name for socialist, communist and other left-wing newspapers and publications,” the online encyclopedia explains.

    The slogan “Forward!” reflected the conviction of European Marxists and radicals that their movements reflected the march of history, which would move forward past capitalism and into socialism and communism.

    The Obama campaign released its new campaign slogan Monday in a 7-minute video. The title card has simply the word “Forward” with the “O” having the familiar Obama logo from 2008. It will be played at rallies this weekend that mark the Obama re-election campaign’s official beginning.

    There have been at least two radical-left publications named “Vorwaerts” (the German word for “Forward”). One was the daily newspaper of the Social Democratic Party of Germany whose writers included Friedrich Engels and Leon Trotsky. It still publishes as the organ of Germany’s SDP, though that party has changed considerably since World War II. Another was the 1844 biweekly reader of the Communist League. Karl Marx, Engels and Mikhail Bakunin are among the names associated with that publication.

    East Germany named its Army soccer club ASK Vorwaerts Berlin (later FC Vorwaerts Frankfort).

    Vladimir Lenin founded the publication “Vpered” (the Russian word for “forward”) in 1905. Soviet propaganda film-maker Dziga Vertov made a documentary whose title is sometimes translated as “Forward, Soviet” (though also and more literally as “Stride, Soviet”).

    Conservative critics of the Obama administration have noted numerous ties to radicalism and socialists throughout Mr. Obama’s history, from his first political campaign being launched from the living room of two former Weather Underground members, to appointing as green jobs czar Van Jones, a self-described communist.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2012/apr/30/new-obama-slogan-has-long-ties-marxism-socialism/

  34. Tax the Rich Says:

    “”"Dems repeated promises of unemployment under 8%”"”

    THAT IS A LIE.

    IT HAS BEEN DEBUNKED MULTIPLE TIMES.

    IT WAS DEBUNKED *YEARS* AGO.

    YOU ARE A LIAR.

  35. Tax the Rich Says:

    *Cantor and other Republicans say Obama promised stimulus would keep unemployment rates below 8 percent*

    MOSTLY FALSE.

    We think it’s a big stretch to call an economic projection a “promise.” The administration never characterized it that way and included plenty of disclaimers saying the predictions had “significant margins of error” and a higher degree of uncertainty due to a recession that is “unusual both in its fundamental causes and its severity.” And so we rule the statement by Cantor — and other Republicans who have said the same thing — Barely True.

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/jul/09/eric-cantor/Cantor-and-other-republicans-say-obama-promised-s/

    SEE?

    CAN YOU READ ENGLISH?!?!

    THAT WAS PUBLISHED IN JULY 2009.

    You are an IDIOT and a LIAR.

  36. Tax the Rich Says:

    *George Will: Obama said stimulus would cap unemployment at 8 percent*

    MOSTLY FALSE

    Will didn’t use the word “promise” as Cantor did when we checked the same claim a year ago, but the meaning is the same, that Obama was offering some sort of guarantee the stimulus would keep the unemployment rate below 8 percent. The administration never characterized it that way and included plenty of disclaimers saying the predictions had “significant margins of error” and a higher degree of uncertainty due to a recession that is “unusual both in its fundamental causes and its severity.” In short, it was an economic projection with warnings of a high margin for error, not a take-it-to-the-bank pledge of an upper limit on unemployment.

    So we find Will’s claim Barely True.

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2010/jul/13/george-will/will-obama-said-stimulus-would-cap-unemployment-8-/

    ANOTHER.

    JULY 2010.

    STOP LYING.

    SADLY, YOU WILL NEVER STOP.

    BECAUSE YOU CARE MORE ABOUT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY THAN YOU DO ABOUT ***AMERICA***

  37. Irish Mike Says:

    Sorry Tax. Truth hurts. Note the chart on page 4. This was prepared by Cristina Romer and Jared Bernstein to argue for the stimulus. Apology accepted.

    OK, you can go back to watching MSNBC now.

    http://otrans.3cdn.net/45593e8ecbd339d074_l3m6bt1te.pdf

  38. Irish Mike Says:

    Whatever happened to the old liberal rant about questioning one’s patriotism?

    Oh, that’s right, the liberal habit of saying one thing, doing another (evidence: Obama & PAC money, Obama & Gitmo, Obama & Bush tax rates).

    Who’s on the Mr. Ed show tonight?

  39. RENEGADE Says:

    @ Irish Mike

    110th Congress (2007-2009)

    Majority Party: Democrat (49 seats)

    Minority Party: Republican (49 seats)

    Other Parties: 1Independent; 1 Independent Democrat

    Total Seats: 100

    Note:Senator Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut was reelected in 2006 as an independent candidate, and became an Independent Democrat. Senator Bernard Sanders of Vermont was elected as an Independent.

    —————————————————————————————————-

    111th Congress (2009-2011)
    Majority Party: Democrat (57 seats)
    Minority Party: Republican (41 seats)
    Other Parties: 1 Independent; 1 Independent Democrat
    Total Seats: 100
    Note: Senator Arlen Specter was reelected in 2004 as a Republican, and became a Democrat on April 30, 2009. Senator Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut was reelected in 2006 as an independent candidate, and became an Independent Democrat. Senator Bernard Sanders of Vermont was elected in 2006 as an Independent.

    —————————————————————————————————-
    From the official US Senate website!!!!

    There is your evidence liar!

  40. Irish Mike Says:

    So you admit the Administration said they THOUGHT the stimulus would keep unemployment below 8%. Does that mean they lied?

    Face it, this Administration has been dead wrong in every economic projection they have made for 3 1/2 years, from “shovel-ready jobs” to GDP forecasts to Recovery Summer to deficit projections. And the Obama budget didn’t get a single vote in the House (414-0), not even from a Democrat, while Hqrry Reid (D-NV) doesn’t even have the courage to submit one to a vote. Shameful.

    And there is no guiding philosophy moving forward other that to demonize the rich and cobble together enough interest groups to be re-elected, by pitting Americans against one another group by group to “punish our enemies” (Obama’s actual words).

    And you think I’m partisan?

  41. Irish Mike Says:

    Renegade: So you don’t count Bernie Sanders, Joe Lieberman and Arlen Specter as Democrats? They all caucused with them.

    And I think the 41st vote was Scott Brown, after he won the special election for Ted Kennedy’s seat (for which Democrats changed the rules again, but that’s another story)

    Anything to make a point, I guess.

  42. Tax the Rich Says:

    Way to ignore the multiple PolitiFact articles I posted.

    You have been exposed as YET ANOTHER dishonest Republican who puts party over country.

    It is bad enough if you put party over country. But the fact that you have to OPENLY LIE to maintain your political posture is literally PATHETIC.

  43. P13 Says:

    Tax the Rich: “Are you SERIOUS?

    Bush wanted to hand Social Security over to WALL STREET.”

    So, question answered. You saw the Democrats’ opposition as opposing bad policy, not as a personal assault on Bush as a person. Nothing wrong with that at all. In fact, I agree. Just understand that not everyone shares your views on good/bad policies. Disagreeing with you and supporting people that actively oppose politicians trying to implement policies they do not agree with is not “LYING” or “PUTTING PARTY OVER COUNTRY,” as you’re shouting at everyone here who simply tries to post a comment you don’t agree with. Politicians elected in the 2010 mid terms were elected by their constituents specifically on platforms of opposing Obama’s policies. That vote was a referendum on the president’s first year+ in office, which you still are ignoring in your rants when you contend that Obama’s policies have been wildly popular.

    They’re not opposing Obama’s policies because of who he is as a person. They, and their constituents, do not agree with you that Obama’s policies are good policies, in the same way you do not agree that Bush’s policies were good policies. As a result, yes, they are trying to defeat his entire platform because of that, much the same way Democrats unified and gummed up the works for Bush, particularly in his second term.

    Look, I’m fine with Democrats opposing Bush’s policies. That’s what their constituents wanted, and that’s what they did. My point is, it’s hypocritical to see one party doing it as an outrage against humanity and exonerate the other party for doing the same simply because YOU agree that one side is right and other is wrong. Dare I say, THAT is putting party above country.

    As for “Renegade”…who also just shouts “liar” at people who disagree with him and who I suspect is the same person as Tax the Rich…your info on the 110th Congress is technically correct, but Irish Mike is right that it was Democratic controlled. Both independents caucused with the Democrats. Please look it up before you call me a liar again. Sanders is a self-described “democrat-socialist” (his words, not mine) and Lieberman only stopped attending Democratic caucus leadership meetings after the 2008 Republican convention…and even since then he still caucuses with the party.

  44. Tax the Rich Says:

    “”"They’re not opposing Obama’s policies because of who he is as a person. They, and their constituents, do not agree with you that Obama’s policies are good policies, in the same way you do not agree that Bush’s policies were good policies”"”

    Oh shut the hell up you friggin liar.

    Why are you people so F-ing dishonest?

    Dropped on your head?

    Taught to lie by Mommy and Daddy?

    Taught to lie by your pastor?

    F-ing pathetic.

  45. Tax the Rich Says:

    Remember the BIRTHERS?

    IT’S STILL GOING ON AND YOU KNOW IT.

    Obama gets called a Socialist Marxist EVERY SINGLE DAY on a million right wing blogs.

    Look at ALLEN WEST. Look at the things he says. Too many to list. Democrats are Nazis. Democrats are slavemasters. Democrats should leave America.

    I’m so F-ing sick of you pathetic liars.

    F you and your relentless mindless F-ing BS.

    STOP THE LIES.

  46. Independent Voter Says:

    Whew!!! Facts mixed in with party rhetoric coupled with links for confirmation has convinced me why our country is sooooo F’d up. To bad the above posters, who obviously are passionate about their politics, don’t use their passion more appropriately and demand our elected officials speak for all and not their party. Stop worrying about re-election and implement sound policy. Pandering to the electorate with the dollars is doing no one any good. We’re in the first quarter of our Super Bowl of demise. Instead of trying to re-build a nation due to poor political decisions, all I’m reading is the desire to return to policies that failed.
    Why don’t some historians and economic gurus look at what made this country prosper and also led it to it’s current state? Can’t seem to figure out why this is so hard. Oh, I know why, because that would mean one political party’s philosophy was better than the others. Ego is more important than strong economic, military and social policy. Yep, we’re screwed.

  47. Tax the Rich Says:

    Independent Voter,

    “”"Why don’t some historians and economic gurus look at what made this country prosper and also led it to it’s current state?”"”

    Here is the answer to your question.

    * Private Jobs Increase More With Democrats in White House *

    During an election-year clash over which U.S. political party has the best prescription for curing unemployment, Democrats can argue that almost two-thirds of private-sector job growth in the past five decades came with them in the White House.

    The BGOV Barometer shows that since Democrat John F. Kennedy took office in January 1961, non-government payrolls in the U.S. swelled by almost 42 million jobs under Democrats, compared with 24 million for Republican presidents, according to Labor Department figures.

    Democrats hold the edge though they occupied the Oval Office for 23 years since Kennedy’s inauguration, compared with 28 for the Republicans. Through April, Democratic presidents accounted for an average of 150,000 additional private-sector paychecks per month over that period, more than double the 71,000 average for Republicans.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-05-08/private-jobs-increase-more-with-democrats-in-white-house.html

  48. Independent Voter Says:

    @Tax the Rich, I’m not doubting yours or others figures. I’m old enough to have lived through the Carter admin and waiting with my parents in the gas lines, Reagan’s and Bush I tax increases which most Repubs seem to forget. I did pretty damn good as a young man during the Clinton years. So my question, why don’t they look and see why we did so good in the 90′s and took a dump in the 2000′s. Some of Clinton’s moves directly affected Bush. NAFTA, questionable banking legislation??? Not to get in the debate of the Bush Tax cuts, two wars etc, it doesn’t take a genius to see where it went wrong.
    Just read some of the posts above, the answers are obvious, but not one person can admit they’re wrong. I’ve pulled both levers in my voting history, and thoroughly disgusted with all of them. Keep up your fight, some of it makes sense. Then again, spending has to stop somewhere and taxes have to go up. Someone show some guts and do this.

  49. Tax the Rich Says:

    “”"spending has to stop somewhere and taxes have to go up”"”

    I agree almost entirely with your post. Literally almost word for word. And in particular I agree with the idea of a mixture of cuts and taxes to solve our INSANE debt.

    You need only look at two things to summarize the current state of the Republican Party:

    1) Anyone who suggests that we work together to compromise on such a deal is now branded a “Commie/Socialist/Marxist” by those on the right. Anyone. Even Republicans who support this are now being marginalized.

    2) Every single GOP candidate for President in 2012 said they would walk away from a deal with 10:1 spending cuts vs tax increases. They would ALL walk away from that deal.

    I encourage you to do what I’m sure you know is the right thing for America in November and vote for the Democrats. If only in this election… Because not only do we NEED to move forward as a country with compromise and solutions and all that, but, in my opinion, no American should reward the type of behavior that the Republicans are showing across the board where compromise to forge solutions — the lifeblood of democracy — is a non-starter.

    Best of luck to you in your choice Indie.

  50. Sandy Says:

    I don’t see why supposedly smart people keep forgetting their history. I keep hearing we need to give the rich more tax breaks and in return it will help grow the economy and trickle down to the middle & working classes. Have the Republicans forgot that was tried during the Reagan years & the trickle down method failed big time. Ended up making the wealthy even wealthier!
    I don’t say I like everything Pres. Obama has done. Sometimes it seems that he draws line after line, each time saying “don’t cross it” only to back down & draw another line. I’m a Democrat but I don’t chose party line over all. Truth of the matter is that out of the candidates for presidency, I feel Obama is still the best available choice. At least he has shown he is willing to compromise with others. Once he wins, I can only hope he’ll chose to stand his ground.
    As for the Republicans, well I remember JFK saying something I thought was important. Something about don’t ask what your country will do for you but instead ask what you can do for your country. My feeling is that most Republicans ask what can my country do for me & forget to think about what’s the best thing they can do for their country.
    My challenge to all parties is to stop thinking about how you can win at all costs – instead start thinking about how you can help our country best win. That includes compromises where both parties are unhappy yet the end result is that our country ends up winning. Frankly, I’m tired of either side trying to say do it my way or I’ll take my toys & go home. Trust me, I’m not really thrilled with any party and it’s more a case of which is person will hurt the country less. I honestly believe Pres. Obama is the better choice & will win.

  51. Eric Says:

    Is there ANYTHING that Obama thinks wasn’t someone else’s fault? Really?

    I voted for Hope and Change. Now I have little of either.

    Fool me once….

  52. Tax the Rich Says:

    “”"Is there ANYTHING that Obama thinks wasn’t someone else’s fault? Really?”"”

    What in the hell are you talking about?

    Are you saying that the recession that started in 2007 *IS* President Obama’s fault?!?!?!

    LOL!

    Oh and you are obviously not a Democrat or Obama voter. You conservafascists try this all the time on every blog and it is just pathetic. Can’t win on the merits of an argument SO YOU LIE INSTEAD. Heckuva way to fail through life, dishonest GOP loser.

  53. Dan Says:

    Balanced Approach: go to the head of the class! Very well put!!!

  54. Go Rick Says:

    Remember to “blame Bush” for 4% unemployment and $1.75 gas. OdumbaBinLaden is a failure. Can’t even propose a budget in over 3 years in office. What a dope.

  55. sanity rules Says:

    Those who think lowering tax on “job creators” really have no economic sense or are part of the normal working class citizen. Look at it this way, dont tax them and they stick it overseas and in their own pockets. Tax the profits and they will spend the money on products for the company, salaries and real job creation as this will lower the tax due to it not being profits, IN the end all win. Jobs due to internal spending and higher profits as the working class can buy the products now. Really sad how the communist right thinks.

  56. Carol Says:

    What happened to the new ‘Foward’ logo? Did they realize that Lenin, Trotsky and Mao used the same word in their ads? What happened to ‘hopey/changey’? This man is a politician, not a leader. He doesn’t inspire confidence in anyone. My favorite line in his finally condoning homsexual marriage after over three years of evolving was …. ‘ the troops fighting for ME’. Good God, how does he get his head through a doorway.

  57. RENEGADE Educator Says:

    Why not add the fact that Obama raised the debt by another 5 trillion to the list? Why is that one not on the list?

  58. Dori Says:

    Hype & Blame is all we heard the last 3 1/2 years.. He will not receive my vote this time…

  59. Susan Says:

    Nobama. No way. End of Error is coming.

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