Comments on: Florida and other GOP-dominated states’ new elections rules could shut out 5 million voters next year http://www.postonpolitics.com/2011/10/florida-and-other-gop-dominated-states-new-elections-rules-could-shut-out-5-million-voters-next-year/ News about politics and government in Florida Sun, 19 May 2013 04:41:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: B Traven http://www.postonpolitics.com/2011/10/florida-and-other-gop-dominated-states-new-elections-rules-could-shut-out-5-million-voters-next-year/comment-page-1/#comment-214658 B Traven Wed, 05 Oct 2011 01:33:07 +0000 http://www.postonpolitics.com/?p=28050#comment-214658 I'm an old-school (i.e., homest) conservative & a firm believer in Occam's Razor, so a couple of thoughts came to me immediately on reading this. One, it's been repeatedly documented that recent claims of voter fraud have been pretty roundly debunked, yet strident calls for reform "to prevent vote fraud" continue to be made by people who provide no evidence that it's a real problem. Second, it's been my personal experience over many years that the more (& louder) that people yell & moan about something, saying how good a deal it is, the more I should be skeptical of a particular vested interest, because it's likely that what they're hawking is a lot more in their interests than mine. Put those two things together & evaluate these new laws that have arisen in states locked down by Johnny-come-lately pseudocons in light of them, & I find myself being VERY suspicious of the intent behind them. These are not actions typical of real conservatives, & I speak from the point of view of someone who was a foot soldier in the Goldwater campaign. I don't trust them; I wouldn't recommend anyone else do it either. Our current laws have proven effective enough; more, & more deliberately restrictive ones, are not only not needed, they smack of intent to subvert the process. I’m an old-school (i.e., homest) conservative & a firm believer in Occam’s Razor, so a couple of thoughts came to me immediately on reading this. One, it’s been repeatedly documented that recent claims of voter fraud have been pretty roundly debunked, yet strident calls for reform “to prevent vote fraud” continue to be made by people who provide no evidence that it’s a real problem.

Second, it’s been my personal experience over many years that the more (& louder) that people yell & moan about something, saying how good a deal it is, the more I should be skeptical of a particular vested interest, because it’s likely that what they’re hawking is a lot more in their interests than mine.

Put those two things together & evaluate these new laws that have arisen in states locked down by Johnny-come-lately pseudocons in light of them, & I find myself being VERY suspicious of the intent behind them.

These are not actions typical of real conservatives, & I speak from the point of view of someone who was a foot soldier in the Goldwater campaign. I don’t trust them; I wouldn’t recommend anyone else do it either. Our current laws have proven effective enough; more, & more deliberately restrictive ones, are not only not needed, they smack of intent to subvert the process.

]]> By: Tony Giegler http://www.postonpolitics.com/2011/10/florida-and-other-gop-dominated-states-new-elections-rules-could-shut-out-5-million-voters-next-year/comment-page-1/#comment-213667 Tony Giegler Tue, 04 Oct 2011 07:53:31 +0000 http://www.postonpolitics.com/?p=28050#comment-213667 I would have no problem with this photo presentation law, if, and only if, the appropriate photo identification was free. To require something with a cost will put honest people who struggle to survive in a position between feeding their children and voting. I would have no problem with this photo presentation law, if, and only if, the appropriate photo identification was free. To require something with a cost will put honest people who struggle to survive in a position between feeding their children and voting.

]]> By: No brainer http://www.postonpolitics.com/2011/10/florida-and-other-gop-dominated-states-new-elections-rules-could-shut-out-5-million-voters-next-year/comment-page-1/#comment-213503 No brainer Tue, 04 Oct 2011 05:55:33 +0000 http://www.postonpolitics.com/?p=28050#comment-213503 You have to show ID to get on a plane, hell you have to show ID to rent a movie. How can having to show ID to vote be anything but common sense? The Democrats are just worried that dead people and Mickey Mouse will be shut out of voting for them. As for students, making sure they don't vote in their home state/district AND in the state/district where they go to school is also common sense. Sorry Dems, you'll have to play by the rules. You have to show ID to get on a plane, hell you have to show ID to rent a movie. How can having to show ID to vote be anything but common sense?
The Democrats are just worried that dead people and Mickey Mouse will be shut out of voting for them.
As for students, making sure they don’t vote in their home state/district AND in the state/district where they go to school is also common sense.
Sorry Dems, you’ll have to play by the rules.

]]> By: andy rooney http://www.postonpolitics.com/2011/10/florida-and-other-gop-dominated-states-new-elections-rules-could-shut-out-5-million-voters-next-year/comment-page-1/#comment-213313 andy rooney Tue, 04 Oct 2011 03:38:08 +0000 http://www.postonpolitics.com/?p=28050#comment-213313 great rule we need a id to drive, we have to show id to enter a government building so why not id to vote. great rule we need a id to drive, we have to show id to enter a government building so why not id to vote.

]]> By: Donna Storter http://www.postonpolitics.com/2011/10/florida-and-other-gop-dominated-states-new-elections-rules-could-shut-out-5-million-voters-next-year/comment-page-1/#comment-212964 Donna Storter Mon, 03 Oct 2011 21:14:12 +0000 http://www.postonpolitics.com/?p=28050#comment-212964 College students, minorities, low-income, disabled, military personnel, nursing home patients, and former residents now living out-of-state can easily vote in Florida by absentee ballot. Even five million Democrat minority low-income voters who don't have photo ID and aren't in their home precinct for early voting can cast an absentee ballot. Our County Supervisors of Elections safeguard our voting rights in the absentee ballot process. So exactly what impact will there be? College students, minorities, low-income, disabled, military personnel, nursing home patients, and former residents now living out-of-state can easily vote in Florida by absentee ballot. Even five million Democrat minority low-income voters who don’t have photo ID and aren’t in their home precinct for early voting can cast an absentee ballot. Our County Supervisors of Elections safeguard our voting rights in the absentee ballot process. So exactly what impact will there be?

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