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Updated: Dem mailer includes West’s Social Security number; challenger claims ‘unprecedented new low’

by George Bennett | September 20th, 2010

CORRECTION: An earlier version of this blog post incorrectly reported that the anti-West mailer was sent by Democratic U.S. Rep. Ron Klein’s campaign. The mailer was sent by the Florida Democratic Party.


The Florida Democratic Party sent out a mailer last week detailing Republican congressional challenger Allen West’s 2005 tax lien and court orders to pay delinquent credit card bills. West is challenging Democratic U.S. Rep. Ron Klein.

The mailer includes a reproduction of the $11,081 tax lien filed against West in Marion County, Indiana, and paid off four months later. The document, pulled from public records, includes a column titled “Identifying Number” that shows West’s nine-digit Social Security number. Although the number isn’t specifically identified as a Social Security number, West campaign manager Josh Grodin said there is no mistaking what the number is.

West called the mailer “an unprecedented new low in American politics.”

Florida Democratic Party spokesman Eric Jotkoff responded by accusing West of “paranoia” and adding: “After making every effort to remove all of Allen West’s private information, unlike West who refuses to apologize to Florida’s taxpayers for not paying his taxes and his bills, we apologize for the oversight of not redacting this information from the public record included in the mailer. To end, while this mail piece does not explicitly identify any Social Security number, in order to stop the crazy West accusations, we will pay for identify theft monitoring for the next two years.”

118 Responses to “Updated: Dem mailer includes West’s Social Security number; challenger claims ‘unprecedented new low’”

  1. Disgusted Dem Says:

    So we have politicians taking positions against and supporting legislation to prevent identity theft, and Klein the Slime is accomodating it. He’s lost me.

  2. MackG Says:

    It’s part of a public record document, anyone could get that info from the court’s website.

  3. Sherry Victor Says:

    Ron Klein is behind this heinous propaganda. He can’t run on his own voting record, which is abysmal so he uses sleaze tactics. By law any personal documents released through normal inquiry channels is redacted to remove any personal info. This most likely came through a back door. Thank goodness Ron is an attorney, he and his fellows democrats will need one!!!

  4. What??? Says:

    This makes no sense, the documents are public, and the lien does not identify the 9 digit number as being his social security number correct??? If it werent for Allen West NO ONE would know this were his social security number. What a dummy.

  5. Jackson Says:

    Ron Klein you are the type of politician that America is tired of. You can’t run on your record because of your record. So the only way you and your campaign feel you can win is by doing crap like this -low and disgusting campaign materials! Most American voters are tired of the negative and despicable ways individuals are running their campaigns (and I would say the majority of the voters). Makes you wonder…
    SHAME ON YOU RON KLEIN…

  6. Defender Says:

    The very first thing to know and realize, though, is that generally it is illegal to undertake a search for ssn’s in order to use them for any purpose different from uses that are defined by law. You can’t do that unless you have authorization from a court, government agency etc. where you work as employee or agent who is entitled to perform background check screening against crime databases, verify personal identity of people etc. This is what a private individual may be sued for in a court, if done. In part, it is prohibited to publish on the Internet the social security numbers or in print. I smell a lawsuit.

  7. Defender 2 Says:

    This mailer was sent to 10,000 homes.

  8. _ Says:

    @MackG
    FTA: “mailer includes a reproduction”
    Public records do not give out citizens’ SSN’s, if they were in a public document I am quite sure it would be redacted. Are all Klein supporters this dumb?

  9. Jackson Says:

    To the individuals who claim “it’s public record” …why don’t you respond with your SSN’s and let’s see how many lunatics will be more than happy to share your identity! Oh but wait, we wouldn’t know if it was your SSN! How lame!

  10. Identity Theft Says:

    I saw Allen West’s email this morning and as a supporter I’ve got to say that he’s losing my support. West has sunk to a new low of desperation trying to cry foul about a piece of mail. If Allen West is so concerned about identity theft why is he telling people his social security # is on a mailer? This blog says the mailer had a title that said identifying #, not social security #. So if you’re looking for the truth, it’s that West is making this into something big on his own.

    Also, Allen West keeps sending messages about wanting to talk about the issues. He apparently can’t even keep his own word.

  11. What? Says:

    Between “Defender” and “_Says”, the west campaign as clearly sent out their two biggest law aficionados. Just as an FYI, all liens are filed at county clerk’s office and ANYONE can walk into there and grab the info. ANYONE and EVERYONE can verify on their own that allen west is a deadbeat.

  12. chashorse Says:

    Does anyone in District 22 need further proof of the sleazy character of Ron Klein, after this latest despicable trick?

    Couple that sleaze with his slavish support of Pelosi and Obama and the Socialist agenda of this administration and there – you have’Ron Klein’

    Will you still cast your vote for Klein? Are you still a loyal, down the road Democrat? Do you care at all what happens to Israel? Do you care what happens to Jews in America? Do you give a damn about your country?

    THINK, you fools. THINK!

  13. Unreal Says:

    These liens and tax records are public record, meaning that ANYONE can go into the Broward County government building in Fort Lauderdale and see them. That means ANYONE can go, see the liens, and find out Allen West’s social security number, if they so desire. This mailer did not make Allen West’s social anymore available than it already is.

    Plus, is Allen West really trying to stop identity theft by making a story out of the fact that his social security number is on this mail piece? Most people barely glance at these things, let alone would take the time to notice a Social Security number on the mailer. Now they all will, because West told them it was there. West only has himself to blame if his identity is stolen.

  14. Klein is loser Says:

    That’s the sleaze that Ron Klein is.

    YOU are next.

    Klein sat behind a desk, while Allan West served in the military. West fought for this country and to protect his men.

    Klein, sat on his a ss with his yap flapping.

    Klein is EXACTLY the kind of politicians who feeds at the public trough.

    Ask Ron Klein about the $500 BILLION cut from Medicare. Remember Klein gets Federal healthcare.

    Ask Ron Klein about his vote to put your great grandchildren in debt with trillions in stimulus that have yet to produce jobs.

    Ron Klein is all about the government being in control of your money, instead of you.

  15. Politically Disgusted Says:

    The fact that Klein is suppose to be an attorney and failed to recognize that the ID# was a nine digit number in the same format as a SSN is beyond me. Ron Klein owes Allen West an apology, he needs to take responsibility for the actions of his campaign staff and fire those who created this mailer. I received this mailer and even I can tell that the ID# is a SSN. Klein has lost my vote, his campaign demonstrates what is wrong in American Politics and does not deserve our support.

  16. Really? Says:

    Allen West continues his campaign to restore honor, integrity and character by putting out a story to distract people from the fact that he is a deadbeat and a crazy who want to overthrow the government.

    Lets talk about the issues Allen. Tell me why you want to overthrow the United States government and why you cant pay your bills.

  17. I'm Allen West Says:

    Hey Everyone. The mailer that was sent to your house has my social security #. Instead of throwing it away, READ IT and write my social security number down so I can take the insidious Little lord Ron behind the woodshed and win this election.

  18. _ Says:

    @What?
    So let me get this straight, you are claiming anyone can walk into the clerks office, and walk out with the SSN’s of anyone who has ever had a lien filed against them in PBC?

  19. Trash Says:

    As a lawyer Klein should know that social security numbers are to be blocked out.

    Someone please post Klein’s Social Security number for us, since he so willingly sent out West’s number.

    That’s how low Klein is. That’s what the democrats and Obama are all about. Wait a minute, that’s wrong, Obama seals his records so the public can’t see that he applied for college grant as a foreign student.

    Klein needs to be voted out office. He can’t control his staff and make sure they do the correct thing, instead they send out someone’s social security number.

    Just an example of the trash that Ron Klein is.

  20. Dem Says:

    Allen West is floundering for attention.
    This Guy is the most well spoken IDIOT I have ever seen.

  21. What a joke Says:

    Here’s a great idea make a big deal about a mailer that exposes you are a deadbeat. If this guy would govern like he runs a campaign, then he would be an abysmal failure for South Florida.

  22. _ Says:

    There is some serious cognitive dissonance going on, in the minds of Klein supporters.

  23. Neal Lang Says:

    “It’s part of a public record document, anyone could get that info from the court’s website.”

    Which don’t give the Leftist Progressive Democrats license to publish it. Hell, Obama’s birth certificate is also a “Public Record” – but I dare to get a copy of it!

  24. Mike Says:

    If Allen West had paid the Tax Bill no one would have ever known.
    Allen West controlled this situation long before he ran for Congress.
    Allen West can control his future today by quitting his run for Congress and donate his remaining campaign funds to groups seeking a way for everyone to peacefully COEXIST.
    It’s the right thing Mr West, do the right thing, America and District 22 can do without you.

  25. Neal Lang Says:

    “This makes no sense, the documents are public, and the lien does not identify the 9 digit number as being his social security number correct??? If it werent for Allen West NO ONE would know this were his social security number. What a dummy.”

    You are the dummy is you can’t recognize a Social Security Number when you see one!

  26. Neal Lang Says:

    “I saw Allen West’s email this morning and as a supporter I’ve got to say that he’s losing my support. West has sunk to a new low of desperation trying to cry foul about a piece of mail. If Allen West is so concerned about identity theft why is he telling people his social security # is on a mailer? This blog says the mailer had a title that said identifying #, not social security #. So if you’re looking for the truth, it’s that West is making this into something big on his own.”

    If his objection to this invasion of Col. West privacy is causing you nu to support him, then I seriously doubt you ever did support him!

    “Also, Allen West keeps sending messages about wanting to talk about the issues. He apparently can’t even keep his own word.”

    So far it is ONLY Col. West who IS talking about the ISSUE, while your man Ronnie is playing dirty politics. This isn’t going to work this year. Ronnie is toast!

  27. Rick Dallas Says:

    Aside from all of the comments that have been made…I just think this is unnecessary. For one – even if there was a lien filed, it was paid off 5 years ago. This whole thing seems to be a red herring and I can’t help but be disappointed in the Florida Dem Party and Klein. I do not understand sending out a mailer with the lien even if it is legit.

    I have to say I wasn’t expecting this kind of race from the Dems and Ron Klein. Where are they defending their agenda and the past 4 years they have spent controlling congress?

  28. Neal Lang Says:

    “Between ‘Defender’ and ‘Says’, the west campaign as clearly sent out their two biggest law aficionados. Just as an FYI, all liens are filed at county clerk’s office and ANYONE can walk into there and grab the info. ANYONE and EVERYONE can verify on their own that allen west is a deadbeat.”

    Apparently, Col. West settled his debts, which makes NOT a deadbeat. This is totally unlike the true DEADBEAT in this campaign who is spending money my great, great, great grandkids will never be able to repay. Isuppose you Ronnie Klein prefer that he sends your money, while Col. West is satisfied with only spending his.

  29. Defender 2 Says:

    The real problem here is with idiots. Guess what, even if the lein was in error. I see that it was satisfied and paid. Does that give the DNC the right to publish his social security number in penalty of the law??? I tell you what, each of you sign in with your social security numbers. See how that works out for ya.

  30. robert williams Says:

    you weardo,s that complain abought allen wests my Question to you is what would you think abought it if it was your SS# sent allover the state if you dont have the Brains to see the harm that can do to a person,s creadet then you are compleate fools this is my E mail # (williams230@bellsouth.net)send me your ss# i dare you to so i can Discradit your Good Creadit i dare you to.

  31. Jeff Says:

    Pay your bills and taxes West. Then you can run for office and ask for people’s votes. Stop trying to criticize everybody else for your irresponsible behavior.

  32. Neal Lang Says:

    “These liens and tax records are public record, meaning that ANYONE can go into the Broward County government building in Fort Lauderdale and see them. That means ANYONE can go, see the liens, and find out Allen West’s social security number, if they so desire. This mailer did not make Allen West’s social anymore available than it already is.”

    Only these records were not in Broward County but instead in Marion County, IN. I doubt ifr anyone is going to go to Indiana to check them. Please not that his debt was completely repaid, before Col. West ran for Congress. The same cannot be said for Obama’s Secretary of the Treasury, whom Ronnie Klein supports wholeheartedly. He didn’t pay his taxes, even after his employer, the World Bank, sent him a check to pay them with and a letter advising him he must do so. BTW, Obama and Ronnie Klein policies have sent more middle class folks into bankruptcy and foreclosure that has any President in history. If you have a problem with people getting into debt, why deon’t you have the same problem with the government doing the same in spades!

    “Plus, is Allen West really trying to stop identity theft by making a story out of the fact that his social security number is on this mail piece? Most people barely glance at these things, let alone would take the time to notice a Social Security number on the mailer. Now they all will, because West told them it was there. West only has himself to blame if his identity is stolen.”

    The FACT is that Ronnie Klein sent a mailing to 10,000 people that included his opponents Social Security Number. I Klein and his supporters cared anything about identity protection, they would not have sent it.

  33. ted Says:

    SLIME BALL KLEIN. Thank you, I think you and your crook friends just sealed the choice of those undecided voters who to vote for!

  34. Rick Dallas Says:

    It is comical to me when I hear democrats point out when other people have issues with taxes and bills. I wish they would glance at the current administration and quickly recognize that this admin has had the most tax-dodgers in recent history…not to mention the largest debt in history being accumulated by the Obama, Pelosi, Reid, and Ron Klein!

  35. Tina Says:

    I can’t believe that anyone would consider Allen West a deadbeat. The debts were settled. He had been on active duty in Iraq during the prior years and I am sure after coming home, things got a little tight financially. Lets face it, the military doesn’t exactly pay as much as say “a politician” gets for sitting on his rump. And yes, most people do know that a nine digit number on a document such as a lein is a social security number.

    Even if you can get this at the public records department (which this practice is currently under review by the federal government because of the upsurge in identity theft) does that mean that the Democrats had the right to send this information out to far more people than would ever have gone down to the public records department to request it?

    Klein can’t compete on the issues, so he resorts to a non-issue. Hey, lets face it, if we are going to disqualify everyone who has had financial problems from running for office, then we need to get used to being ruled by the elite and wealthy who have no idea what a student loan is or how to balance a checkbook.

  36. NC Says:

    Can we scrap BOTH West & Klein?

    While we are at it, let’s get rid of every candidate.

    Florida is a pathetic mess and these two are a perfect example of why.

  37. Defender 2 Says:

    The private sector would be prohibited from:

    Selling or purchasing SSNs (limited exceptions would be made for law enforcement (including child support enforcement); national security; public health; health or safety emergency situations; tax purposes; to ensure the accuracy of credit and insurance underwriting information and certain other Fair Credit Reporting Act purposes; if incidental to the sale, lease or merger of a business; to administer employee or government benefits; for some research; or with the individual’s affirmative, written consent). Further exceptions may be made for other purposes by regulation.

    Displaying SSNs to the general public, including on the Internet.

    Displaying SSNs on checks.

    Requiring the transmission of SSNs over the Internet without encryption or other security measures.

    Making unnecessary disclosures of another individual’s SSN to government agencies.

    Displaying the SSN on cards or tags issued to employees, their family members, or other individuals.

    Displaying the SSN on cards or tags issued to access goods, services, or benefits.

    Public and private sectors would be required to safeguard SSNs they have in their possession from unauthorized access by employees or others.

    Sale, purchase, or display of SSNs in the public or private sector would be permitted by regulation in other circumstances, when appropriate. In making this determination, regulators would consider whether the authorization would serve a compelling public interest and would consider the costs and burdens to the public, government, and businesses. If sale, purchase, or display were to be authorized, the regulation would provide for restrictions to prevent identity theft, fraud, deception, crime, and risk of bodily, emotional, or financial harm.

    For a limited time, the public sector would be allowed to sell or display to the general public, and the private sector would be allowed to sell, purchase or display to the general public, the last four digits of SSNs. This temporary exception to the bill’s general prohibition on such sale, purchase and public display would end two years after the effective date of the final regulations.

    A person would be prohibited from obtaining another person’s SSN to locate or identify the individual with the intent to harass, harm, physically injure or use the individual’s identity for an illegal purpose.

    Wherever a truncated SSN is used, it must be limited to the last 4 digits of the number. (This truncation standard does not change the permissible uses of the SSN.)

    State law governing use of SSNs would not be preempted where state law is stronger.

    The National Research Council would be commissioned to conduct a study to evaluate the feasibility of banning the use of the SSN as an authenticator of identity.
    Enforcement

    New criminal penalties (up to 5 years imprisonment and a fine up to $250,000) and civil penalties (up to $5,000 per incident) would be created for violations of the law relating to the display, sale, purchase, or misuse of the SSN, offering to acquire an additional SSN for a fee, and for selling or transferring one’s own SSN.

    Prison sentences would be enhanced for SSN misuse associated with repeat offenders (up to 10 years), drug trafficking or crimes of violence (up to 20 years), or terrorism (up to 25 years).

    New criminal penalties (as much as 20 years in prison and fine up to $250,000) and civil penalties (up to $5,000 per incident) would be created for Social Security Administration employees who fraudulently sell or transfer SSNs or Social Security cards.
    The bill permits enforcement by the Social Security Administration (which would have civil monetary penalty authority); the Department of Justice (which enforces criminal violations of federal law); and state attorneys general (who would be granted civil enforcement authority over private-sector users and state and local government). In addition, individual victims affected by violations of this bill by federal agencies would be provided with limited legal recourse to stop an agency’s violation and recover any actual damages they may have suffered.

  38. Rationing Drugs -Obamacare Says:

    Ask Ron Klein why Obamacare is already RATIONING drugs.

    The late stage cancer drug, Avastin, is being denied not because of safety factors but because of cost factors.

    Now, if Klein needed the drug, with his federal healthcare, he’d get it.

    Tiered healthcare. Democrats, who ARE in control of the senate and congress elected to EXEMPT themselves and their families from Obamacare.

    We get stuck, they get better care. Klein voted for this!

    Let’s vote this jerk, oout!

  39. Lipe Eliezer Says:

    I am embarrassed to admit that I am a Democrat. Embarrassed because of the stupidity of the Florida party making an issue of Lt. Col. West’s handling of his taxes. Many of us have complicated tax situations and resolution has taken some time. In the current Obama economy, many people are behind in settling debts, including taxes. And we “deadbeats” also vote. However, Col. West paid off his tax debt years ago, but now the Democrats have opened an issue that applies to many members of the Obama cabinet and the White House staff, not to mention Charlie Rangel. So “deadbeats” also get to serve in important government jobs. I’m supporting the Tea Party and West over Klein and the arrogant “ruling elites.”

  40. jinx13 Says:

    Hey let’s all play who’s the racist’s game. ron klein is criticizing a black man. Therefore ron is RACIST. Hey wasn’t that fun???

  41. Tina Says:

    Hey Jeff – Allen West did pay his bills, how about you go to war and defend yourself. Do you have the courage. He had the courage, he just ran out of cash…which he later acquired and paid his debt. You have no idea how many veterans come home from war and find that they are in a financial wreck. They are off defending our county while you sit in judgement. Hope your record is clean, because someday it could come back and bite you. Maybe an ex wife wants to take a private issue of yours and spread it all over the internet through facebook or myspace. By your comment, you should have no problem with it. I mean if you did it, shouldn’t everyone have the right to know and to pour through your dirty laundry?

  42. milkchaser Says:

    The reader who wrote that this is a public record available in Broward Co. apparently did not read the article closely. The record came from out of state. In other words, an identity thief would have to work pretty hard to have come up with this number.

    Even so, mailing the SSN to 10K people makes it a lot easier to steal the number — no research required.

    That said, the Klein campaign’s intent was probably not to encourage id theft, rather it was to defame West. The SSN exposure was merely negligent.

    The core question is: Should West be defamed for having gotten behind in his taxes (which he promptly paid)? I have had some lean times. I have compassion for people who have had it tough and have toughed it out. This is not something West should be ashamed of.

    Now if he had not paid the tax, that would be a different story. But then, if he had not paid the tax, he would probably be running as a Democrat.

  43. Neal Lang Says:

    “Allen West continues his campaign to restore honor, integrity and character by putting out a story to distract people from the fact that he is a deadbeat and a crazy who want to overthrow the government.”

    Actually, unlike the Secretary of the Treasury, whom Klein and Obama supports, who ONLY PAID his taxes after his was catch red handed, Col. West settled his debts as soon as his was financial able. We will NEVER be able to settle the debts being run up by Obama and his little toady – Ronnie Klein!

    “Lets talk about the issues Allen. Tell me why you want to overthrow the United States government and why you cant pay your bills.”

    Were you born stupid, or did you work at getting stupid you whole life? Where has the decorated war hero, Col. Allen West, who put his life on the line for his country and our Constitution, EVER said he wanted to “overthrow the United States government.” What you silly Leftist Progressives don’t seem to understand is that Alhaji Hussein Obama and Ronnie Klein ARE NOT THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT. Accept it and get over it! As for “paying his bills, according to the public record he did just that, making him far superior to most of the deadbeats in the Democrat caucus in Congress and in the Obama Administration and White House. If Ronnie Klein want to investigate tax cheats, I suggest he begins with his own President’s cabinet and Party!

  44. Valerie Says:

    To begin with, the personnel in Marion County, Indiana should have (under federal, state and local laws) redacted any identifying numbers. As for no one knowing it was his SSN before he said something, that’s not the point. The point is, Klein is most likely behind this — the Florida Democratic Party has bigger fish to fry than Ron Klein’s piddly problems so why do YOU think this happened?

    The first people to see this in LTC West’s home were his teenage daughters. How about if I dig up some dirt on you and mail it to everyone in the world? Especially when you KNOW that you aren’t doing so well. Good grief, over half of LTC West’s supporters are Congressman Klein’s Jewish constituents! What does that tell you.

    I would much rather have a man who is human, who has made mistakes and owned up to them and corrected them than to elect someone who thinks he does no wrong and refuses to even debate several issues with his opponent. If you were to dig up the derogatory info on every member of Congress, I’m afraid you would be busy until right after hell froze over!

    I can’t vote there but I certainly will be watching on election night. I plan to retire in that area of Florida, and the rest of you who live there need to get out and register NOW and then go vote. If you don’t, then you have given up your free speech rights about this election — you see, FREEDOM IS DEFINITELY NOT FREE!!

  45. Neal Lang Says:

    “Hey Everyone. The mailer that was sent to your house has my social security #. Instead of throwing it away, READ IT and write my social security number down so I can take the insidious Little lord Ron behind the woodshed and win this election.”

    Another Klein supporter: “Still stuck on stupid!”

  46. Neal Lang Says:

    “Allen West is floundering for attention.
    This Guy is the most well spoken IDIOT I have ever seen.”

    And will beat the pants off the pasy Ronnie Klein in the election.

    BTW, Ronnie Klein would prefer to have NO ATTENTION because hois record sucks! That will change when his mentor and hero Alhaji Hussein Obama comes down and gives his the “hug of death!” If you like Obama vote for Ronnie Klein. If not, vote for a real man and American hero, Col. Allen Wst!

  47. Valerie Says:

    Although I can’t be certain, I believe that LTC West was deployed at that time. When you are deployed, you can be certain that you aren’t going to get all your mail every day.

    Furthermore, am I the ONLY one that read that he paid it 4 months after it was filed? That’s when he found out about it and took care of it immediately.

    As for overthrowing the government, that’s not what he wants — he wants to overthrow what we claim to be our government and get back to a government, of the people, by the people and for the people and using the U.S. Constitution as a basis.

    Everyone complains about government, but how many of you are registered to vote and how many of you even bother to get off your duff, turn off Oprah and go vote when it’s time?

    Voting is a priviledge of the American People and too many young men and women have been dying and will continue to die so you can exercise your rights. Just think about that when you decide “there’s no one worth voting for” and you will get exactly what you deserve.

  48. Ron Klein runs Says:

    Klein makes personal attacks because he doesn’t want to talk about WHAT MATTERS to FLORIDIANS and all AMERICANS:

    the debt
    jobs, jobs, jobs
    taxation
    healthcare
    illegal immigration
    blindly following Nancy Pelosi

    Do you read or hear Ron Klein discuss these issues?

    Think not. He’s avoiding those topics, much like when he ‘called in’ to his townhall meetings on healthcare.

    Ron Klein couldn’t serve in the military. He runs away from what he is confronted with.

    That’s not leadership, that’s cowardliness.

    Ron Klein=coward

  49. Neal Lang Says:

    “Here’s a great idea make a big deal about a mailer that exposes you are a deadbeat. If this guy would govern like he runs a campaign, then he would be an abysmal failure for South Florida.”

    Ronnie Klein is all ready an abysmal failure. He idea to solve the coming Social Security bankruptcy is ObamaCare, which will insure that going forward, retirees will not live long past 66. BTW, a “deatbeat” is someone doesn’t pay their debts – Col. West obviously paid his, unlike Charlie Rangal.

  50. Neal Lang Says:

    “If Allen West had paid the Tax Bill no one would have ever known.”

    But he did paid his tax bills, long before he every ran for Congress. Why didn’t that little Slimeball Klein bring this up in his 2008 campaign against Col. West? Because this year he knows he is going to lose – BIG!

    “Allen West controlled this situation long before he ran for Congress.
    Allen West can control his future today by quitting his run for Congress and donate his remaining campaign funds to groups seeking a way for everyone to peacefully COEXIST.”

    Dream on! The only people who peacefully “COEXIST” are dead.

    “It’s the right thing Mr West, do the right thing, America and District 22 can do without you.”

    Tobad for you our country and our District will do without your hero, and Obama’s toady – Ronnie Klein.

  51. Neal Lang Says:

    “Pay your bills and taxes West. Then you can run for office and ask for people’s votes. Stop trying to criticize everybody else for your irresponsible behavior.”

    What is it with the the words: “paid off four months later” that you Leftist Progressives find so hard to understand?

  52. Neal Lang Says:

    “Pay your bills and taxes West. Then you can run for office and ask for people’s votes. Stop trying to criticize everybody else for your irresponsible behavior.”

    What is it about the the words: “paid off four months later” that you Leftist Progressives find so terribly hard to understand?

  53. District 22 voter Says:

    I have spent the last days hearing from my family “I told you so” because I actually went out and voluteered for the Klein campaign….never again. First time Congressman Klein, it is shame on you….now, second time, it is shame on me if I was stupid enough to vote for you again.

  54. Glenn Meyers Says:

    I believe Lt. Col. West is sticking to the issues. One of the issues is honesty in Government. No one should have their SS# sent to 10,000 homes and anyone who thinks that this should be ignored by Lt. Col. West is not cognizant of the fact that if we let attorney Congressman Ron Klein get away with this, then we are next. I challenge Mr. Klein to speak up on the issues and answer for his voting record. Let’s have a public debate between these two gentlemen and let Mr. Klein and Lt. Col. West answer these questions and show data for any allegations made AFTER THEY SPEAK ABOUT THE ISSUES. My experience with Lt. Col. West is that he is sticking to the issues. My experience with Mr. Klein is that he does not. I actually had an office in the same building as Mr. Klein for 18 months several years ago and I couldn’t even get him to say hello in the lobby. Let’s get honesty back to Washington…

  55. DINO Says:

    It’s clear that Rep. Klein is now desperate. It seems he hasn’t even discussed the issues himself and can’t rely on his voting record either. I am disgusted and upset by this new adventure by the Democratic Party of Florida. Ron had to know about this and certainly bought into it. So far, I haven’t seen anythig but negativity coming from the Klein campaign. I have heard Col. West speak only positively. My vote will no longer be for Representative Klein. This new tactic is bringing me over to the West camp.

  56. Einstein Says:

    As Ive said before, no American jew should ever vote for Klein because his boss belives Israel should return to the 1967 borders. Hussein does not like Israelis…if you havent noticed Ill tell you….he supports the Palistinian cause and the Muslim agenda in particular. Klein will be nothing more than Husseins and Pelosis’s lil boy at their beck and call. Vote for LtCol. Allen West to bring some sanity to Washington.

    No self respecting Jew should ever vote for Klein.

  57. LOUIS Says:

    Identity theft ?? not a good move Klein operatives ?? even if the ssn is part of public information, its your job to edit the number, so that thieves won’t have access to it.

  58. constitution 101 Says:

    RON KLEIN SLEAZE
    CLUELESS CLASSLESS MALEVOLENT
    PACK YOUR BAGS
    GO WEST

  59. Kristina Says:

    Allen West might be ‘extreme’ but what Ron Klein’s Democratic Party just did was extremely stupid. ‘Round these parts we call this ‘CAMPAIGN FAIL.’

  60. Jackson Says:

    OMG – the DEM party is owning up to something?!?!? To Eric Jotkoff – to little…to late. This is just another wonderful example how the DEM party and their puppets (Klein) are taking our country down! WE as American’s need someone who can take us onward in a positive direction…GO WEST!

  61. JGP Says:

    This incident epitomizes why politicians have such a bad name. All too often campaigns have young twenty-somethings involved that have no clue about the real world. Klein’s people blacked out West’s address, but not his Social Security number and then try to defend their idiocy by offering to pay for credit monitoring and calling West’s criticism of this incident a “crazy rant”!?!?

    Message to Eric Jotkoff: those of us who live in the real world would really not appreciate our social security numbers being mailed to thousands of people. If you think West’s concerns are a “crazy rant”, be glad you didn’t release my number. I wouldn’t be criticizing you, I’d be suing you.

  62. Defender 2 Says:

    I would and will sue anyone releasing my information, however, I also think it is a criminal offense.

  63. Defender 2 Says:

    I am glad he admitted to it in a public forum, easier case.

  64. fearful of west Says:

    “no self respecting Jew should ever vote for Klein”
    correction: Klein has been a strong supporter of Israel and is an active supporter of policies that will bring out a robust economy. By contrast, West is a war monger who does not want peace and views every Muslim as his personal enemy. If you vote for West, you will support a lunatic who will take us into another VietNam as he has no diplomatic skills at all. West will lead us into a never ending war. I prefer Klein over this lunatic any day.

  65. Defender 2 Says:

    don’t spend your life in fear

  66. Termack Says:

    Klein’s got my vote!!

    Way to go Ron, expose this charlatan.

  67. TommyC Says:

    fearful of west says: “West is a war monger who does not want peace and views every Muslim as his personal enemy. If you vote for West, you will support a lunatic who will take us into another VietNam …”

    Do you have any quotes, writings or videos from West to back these statements up? Or do you just “know” them to be the case?

  68. Defender 2 Says:

    twisted mind. you mean a charlatan pays his bills? oops you are a dem.

  69. bill Says:

    I WAS a Ron Klein supporter…until this. You lost me Ron! Thank God your days are numbered! Only 2 months left for you sir….Mazel Tov.

  70. I'm Ron Klein Says:

    WHOOPS!!! Sorry Allen. Guess I am grasping at straws…but can you blame me??? I’m getting killed in the polls!!!

  71. Spence Says:

    Gosh, politicians behave badly, showing alack of ethics. What a shock.

  72. Rick Dallas Says:

    I’m terribly disappointed in the response by the Democrat Party of Florida. They made no effort to redact any of the confidential material and then issue a backhanded apology. To me, this speaks volumes about Klein and the Florida Democrats.

    I was really hoping that Klein would engage West on the issues but it seems that he will not as is reflected in Klein’s decision to only appear at one public debate with West.

    I hope that folks take notice of these tactics and vote out Pelosi and Klein.

  73. Sam Says:

    Not picking sides here at all, but SS, DOB and other identifying information can be found in many public records. Sadly most public records are not redacted before filing nor or they redacted before making them available electronically or publically.

  74. JACK GILLIES Says:

    Your Country needs your help in removing ultra-liberal Ron Klein and his despicable behavior from the halls of Congress. Everybody knows political campaigns are rough and tumble but Klein has taken this contest to the pig pen. Klein must divert his campaign away from the issues because his voting record parallels Nancy Pelosi 98% of the time.

    Allen West is not running to be the voice of District #22, but for ALL Americans. You might not live in D-#22, but I hope you consider Allen as your voice in Washington DC. Heading down to the wire it looks like slim-ball Klein will stop at nothing.

    GO WEST!

  75. fearful of west Says:

    Hi Tommy C,
    I met West at a meeting a few months ago at the Signature Grand in Davie to discuss a film on the Islamic terrorists sponsored by Aisch.com in which he was a keynote speaker.
    West proclaimed Muslims as “the enemy that must be defeated in a war. We will fight in the Middle East until the job is finished. We can not have peace with the Muslims”.
    West is too much of a war fanatic for me to consider him worthy of my vote. I do not want to see America plunge into another war that will never end.

  76. Liberals R Pigs Says:

    HEY RONNIE BOY, THE FAT LADY IS STARTING TO TUNE UP HER WIND PIPES!

  77. Liberals R Pigs Says:

    @ #75 fearful of west Says:

    WHAT A KNUCKLEHEAD YOU ARE

  78. Liberals R Pigs Says:

    STICK A FORK IN KLEIN… HE’S DONE!

    WE ARE GLAD OBAMA IS COMING DOWN TO HAVE A PHOTO OP WITH YOU… IT WILL ONLY HURT HIM IN 2012.

  79. Liberals R Pigs Says:

    WILL THE LIBERAL JEWS STILL VOTE FOR KLEIN JUST BECAUSE HE HAS A “D” BEHIND HIS NAME?

  80. Liberals R Pigs Says:

    KLEIN IS THE GIFT THAT KEEPS ON GIVING… THANK YOU

    GO WEST!

  81. JACK GILLIES Says:

    Joe Budd’s campaign should call Ted Deutch to get a statement from him about his buddy Ron Klein.

    Yes, the same Ted Deutch that is in lock-step with everything Barack Obama says and does.

    Democrats of District #19 please make some time to listen to Joe Budd… you will love this guy.

  82. madmama Says:

    This is disgusting! Why would anyone run for public office?Everyone has a past. To try to destroy a person because of the difficulties they have encountered in their lives….is beyond low! And let’s be honest, most normal people have had some difficulties in their lives. And for you stupid Dems out there still defending the Democratic party (for the record I used to be a Dem till I snapped out of it!)….I’d LOVE to see your past indiscretions! You are a bunch of hypocrites. Look at the bunch sitting in Congress these days….many are convicted felons, tax evaders, and down right crooks….Geitner, Rangel, Jefferson, Waters, and those two clowns who took scholarship money….to name a few!

  83. JACK GILLIES Says:

    WAIT A MINUTE, is this the same Ron Klein that does NOT return phone calls from the people of D22? Is this the same Ron Klein that REFUSES to return e-mails from the people of D22? Is this the same Ron Klein that DUCKS open townhall meetings with the people of D22? Is this the same Ron Klein that is SCARED to death to have a “real” debate with LTC Allen West in front of the people of D22? Well it is! Congressman Klein, the people of D22 have had enough and will retire you on November 2nd!

    GO WEST!

  84. ALLEN WEST = BAD HUSBAND Says:

    Allen West is a jerk! He fired a pistol by an innocent man’s head, in violation of the Uniform Code of Military Justice!

  85. Robert Says:

    Go WEst

  86. madmama Says:

    To Bad Husband….
    Are you for real? The” innocent man” was a friggin terrorist who had knowledge of future IED attacks against American soldiers. West’s actions prevented the deaths of his soldiers by making him ‘talk’. Any REAL man would do the same…not the pantywaists who are running the military now. The reason we are still in Afghanistan is because nobody has the cajones to finish off the terrorists once and for all! I wish we had a thousand Col. West’s in Afghanistan right now! Then our boys could come home!

  87. B only Says:

    Oh please. The democrats are actually trying to convince people that the mailer is ok because the number isn’t identified as an s.s. number. what a crock. Oh, and they regret that the number wasn’t marked out. No they don’t.

  88. TommyC Says:

    fearful of West, I guess I’ll have to take your word for it since I doubt you can provide any links. However, I have to think that perhaps you may have taken some preconceived notions and slightly modified what he actually said (not intentionally, of course). If he really thinks those things, I’m sure there is evidence out there. I’d like to see it.

  89. james hegarty Says:

    Anyone who doesn’t know that an identifier of 9 numbers on a federal form is the persons SS # needs their citizenship checked.

  90. Steve Says:

    Something the Post fails to mention above is the fact that the mailer also included Mrs. West’s employer tax ID number for her own business. I would suggest that if you want a more balanced coverage of politics you read the Sun Sentinel. Here is the link to the article there covering this story. More up to date and accurate than the Post!
    http://weblogs.sun-sentinel.com/news/politics/broward/blog/2010/09/attack_ad_designed_to_benefit.html

  91. Conor Says:

    Someone wrote: “If it werent for Allen West NO ONE would know this were his social security number. What a dummy.”

    Yeah, it takes a real genius to recognize a social security number on a tax document. I’m sure no one would ever figure it out. Then again, Florida Democrats supposedly couldn’t figure out the 2000 presidential ballot, so I guess anything is possible in the dependency class.

  92. Aaron Worthing Says:

    First, I have seen enough of Allen West to think it would be very unwise to upset him, you know, by stealing his identity.

    Second, you can’t fault democrats from not recognizing a SS# on a tax form. I mean bare in mind, while democrats have no problem raising tax rates, they don’t seem so good about actually paying their taxes. So maybe they have never seen a tax form, correctly filled out. :-)

  93. brigitte Says:

    Libs are bitter, angry insecure people.

  94. jgjo Says:

    ok for all who say that it is public records and you can go online or walk in and receive this record.
    yes it is “public knowledge” but there are a few restrictions placed on what this info is for.
    WHen you go online to retrieve this info you have agrred with the terms of the online service. One of these services states…

    “You agree that your use of the Intelius Databases is governed by the following terms and conditions:
    1.Access to Intelius. Upon registration, Intelius grants you a nontransferable, nonexclusive license to access our databases and the information contained in the databases, solely for the purpose of performing data verification, person, property and address location and related searches for qualified individual commercial use only….
    …2.General Restrictions. You agree to use our information only for appropriate, legal purposes, and in compliance with all applicable federal, state and local laws and regulations. Additionally, you agree that our databases and information may not be used to bother, stalk, harass, threaten or embarrass any individual. You may not use the service to look up celebrities or other public persons,…..
    Information shall not be provided or resold to any other person or entity without our prior written consent. All searches of our databases are tracked, and (as noted below) you consent to such tracking and to the provision of all information about your use of our databases to law enforcement and others as may be useful to respond to allegations that our service or information has been misused.

    In other words it was not intended for the use of sending out in political flyer for political person.

    And for all the morons who say that the number was not disclosed as the SS# so it should be no big deal. Anyone with half a brain would realize that 99% of 9 digit numbers could very well be a SS#. If they wanted to send out this lien then they could have blacked out that info. very easy. But this was an intentional, deliberate act and shows just how criminal the democratic politicos have become. They have become nothing but low-life thugs who will stop at nothing to keep their power so that they can control all.

    The scumbags who were part of this mailing should be thrown in jail.
    The democratic party KNOWS they were wrong and even though they tried to blame it on West, they came out with a half-ass apology, and offered to pay for two years for identity theft protection for the west family. WOw YWO years. Tjey should have offered LIFE-TIME protection. They are scared for what could be done to them both criminally and civilly.

    “Florida Democratic Party spokesman Eric Jotkoff responded by accusing West of “paranoia” and adding: “After making every effort to remove all of Allen West’s private information, unlike West who refuses to apologize to Florida’s taxpayers for not paying his taxes and his bills, we apologize for the oversight of not redacting this information from the public record included in the mailer. To end, while this mail piece does not explicitly identify any Social Security number, in order to stop the crazy West accusations, we will pay for identify theft monitoring for the next two years.”

    They couldn’t be men and just come out and say they were sorry..nope they had to get a few digs in about West not apologizing to florida’s tax payers for not paying his taxes and bills, it is my understanding that COL ALLEN WEST DID pay all his taxes and bills. SO what if he was late..many of us have been late in paying bills or taxes, especially in the past 2 years.
    ANd then the dems say..”in order to stop the CRAZY west accusations”. JUst ask ANYONE who has had their identity stolen just how “crazy” these accusations could become. It is a LIFE TIME inconvenience and was totally unnecessary.
    ANd to all the posters who said that this mailer and west’s response is causing them not to vote for West — lets be real..you were NEVER going to vote for him to begin with. You keep voting for the SOB who allowed this mailer to go out and who voted for EVERY TAX AND SPEND BILL proposed by this administration and congress. Your children and grand children will definitely thank you in the years to come. Good luck sir. and THANK YOU for your service to our country. THank YOu for protecting us.

    Allen West, I pray tht you win on Nov 2. We need people with your courage and dedication to the principles of what our country was founded on.

    Oh and btw, I am NOT a republican. I am an independent who is soo disgusted by the ethics and morals of our current politicians. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH…VOTE THEM ALL OUT.

  95. Valerie Says:

    Part of the Sun Sentinel article on this quoted this from one of the responders from the Florida Democratic Party:

    “Allen West’s claim that his children are at risk is just bizarre.”

    Anyone ever connected to the military knows that even after you retire, anything involving your children to include detailed medical records, are all filed under the sponsor’s (i.e., LTC West) SSN.

    I should probably just quit reading because it just raises my blood pressure and I had it under control.

  96. NOWEST Says:

    It Makes Me so HAPPY when All you Right Wing Lunatics get soooooooooooo Mad. :)
    Maybe FL Dems should have just threatened West with Violent rhetoric like he usually does to his opponents.
    Although we have seen what this Puss does when people stand up to him.
    Mommy….Whaaaaaaaaa…. I’m telling!
    I love picking on BULLIES like West.

  97. jgjo Says:

    you nowest are an a$$ plain and simple

  98. Liberals R Pigs Says:

    LIBERALS ARE PIGS, SO I GUESS NOWEST IS A PIG.

    NOWEST SAYS “I love picking on BULLIES like West”. You are pretty tough standing behind the keys on your computer. You probably had your lunch money stolen at school everyday.

  99. D.S. Riley Says:

    CAN’T YOU PEOPLE READ!!!
    It wasn’t Ron Klein who allegedly added Allen West’s S.S.#. It was attributed to the DCCC.

    All mail pieces have a number resembling a Social Security number. I want to hear from the DCCC first. I would be very surprised to hear that the DCCC did this. I am reserving judgement until all of the facts are in.

  100. Florida Native Says:

    Lipe, it’s refreshing to see a Democrat who can actually rationalize this situation.

    You Democrats calling West a deadbeat – what do you call little Timmy Geitner, litte Tommy Daschle, little boy Rahm and the other 41 tax cheats that currently hold posts in the Obama administration? You hypocrites bash a man who was off fighting a war, protecting YOU, for owing a lousy $11K in taxes, yet you turn the other cheek when Timmy, Tommy and the rest of the boys owe MILLIONS?

    Even Tom Daschle, when the story of his millions owed became public said “IT’S COMPLICATED”. Indeed it is, Tommy boy, and sometimes the average person gets swept up in it.

    What this boils down to is that small ron feels like holding public office is an entitlement for him. He is a member of the party ultimate tax cheats, yet he redefines the low in LOW. He can’t run on his record because his record SUCKS and everyone knows it, including him. So this is the kind of slimy, bottom-feeding, filthy, dirty lawyer tactic that his campaign resorts to.

    If this bothers others the way that it SHOULD then please go to Allen West’s site and contribute to his campaign. Allen has outraised ronny in several fundraising cycles, not sure how many so I won’t speculate. The momentum to sweep this useless loser Klein from office is GREAT and we need to finish him off.

  101. wethepeoplepress Says:

    Funny

    I am working on a video that shows how the Florida Democratic Party and Ron Klein for Congress took my copyrighted content along with other vidoegraphers copyrighted content and used it to make misrepresentations and half truths. They took seconds of content out of hours of footage that was not theirs and posted it on a web site paid for by the Democratic Party of Florida and approved by Ron Klein for Congress. I was able to have the video removed but it amazes me what lengths of sleezy actions Ron Klein will take to try and win. He has written zero legislation and will be 80% vested in retiremnet after having never accomplished anything, vote out the encumbant I say, He is not the kind of representation I want. The guy stole my video, he is a thief.

  102. melinwy Says:

    This is just a typical dem action, they have no morals whatsoever!!!! How anyone can align themselves with these scum bags is sad. Lets get some honor back into the public square people.

  103. Valerie Says:

    Just so you know, Ron Klein all of Congress are under the Federal Employees Retirement System, same as me. You are completely vested in 5 years but you must be at least 55 to get the monthly checks.

  104. Valerie Says:

    To D. S. Riley: You sir are an idiot — the Florida Democratic Party admitted to this in an article in the Sun Sentinel and even offered to pay for a whole 2 years of identity monitoring for them! And since the guy who makes the commercials who owns the identity monitoring company had his identity hijacked earlier this year before he even knew it, that’s not such a good deal

  105. Athelstane Says:

    Identity Theft says: “I saw Allen West’s email this morning and as a supporter I’ve got to say that he’s losing my support.”

    Troll.

    Why pretend?

  106. jondos Says:

    I love Allen West and I can finally say there is a politician I can trust. Allen West held town hall meetings on health care last summer when Ron Klein was no where in sight. Allen West regularly appears on local talk radio shows to address the concerns of the citizens when Ron Klein is no where in sight. Allen West regularly showed up at SCHEDULED debates last election cycle when Ron Klein was no where in sight. Now you tell men, who do you want to represent the people of District 22? A vote FOR Allen West is a vote AGAINST Socialism, Communism, Marxist, Big Government, Global taxes, United Nations influence, High Unemployment, Massive Entitlements, Nancy Pelosi, Obama, the puppet master George Soros, and most deservedly, Ron Klein!

  107. Mordechai Says:

    Ron Klein wants us to vote for him because he is rich and Alan West is not rich.

    Ron Klein of course became rich because as a state Senator he pressured government entities such as the Palm Beach Health Care district to hire his law firm or else. And anyone who needed a favor from a Senator knew what law firm they had to use.

    Col West just spent his life defending his fellow Americans in the military instead of having a lucrative career bilking taxpayers.

    So vote Klein and help the rich get richer through fleecing the government.

  108. Tevis Jones Says:

    As a mortgage industry professional, it amazes me that people are letting Klein and the Democratic Party of Florida off the hook. They messed up, they know it, they just wont admit it.. If they took the time to conceal other personally identifiable info, how could they miss a 9 digit number which looks and smells like an SSN. Given Klein’s hypocrisy, I would not and will not support him. Go Allen West…

  109. Karensky Says:

    Whether the Fla. Dem Party did this or Ron Klein di this someone should be losing their ability to practice law in the State of Florida. It appears that someone either within the Indiana tax beauracracy or AGs office sent out a non-redacted tax form across state lines. We saw this with Bill the Plumber where “certain people in the know” violated the laws to help a Democrat.
    This calls for an investigation, are you listening Mr. McCullough?

  110. JohnnyEutaw Says:

    You Florida Democrats need to take some lessons from Alabama Democrats. They’ve been running Alabama State government for 139 years and nobody complains much. Mostly because outside of Birmingham, Montgomery & Tuscaloosa, there aren’t too many people who can read and, anyway, most of the Dem voters are crackheads and methfreeks cookin’ up their fixes out in the woods. The ghastly dopers come in to town occasionally to vote as they are told by their Democrat handlers. They collect their hundred bucks, and then its back out to the woodsy crackhole where they stay nice and high and peaceful until the Democrat bosses need them once again for another “vote.” No fuss, no muss. Alabama has Republican Senators and governors for window dressing but we all know the real deals are made behind closed doors in Montgomery by those fine, fine Democrats. Yesiree! Those Democrats sure do look out for the little fella! 139 years of Democrat rule in Alabama–139 years and counting…

  111. Steven Says:

    When you cannot run on a record you must run FROM it – as per the Klein Campaign. If the stimulus & healtcare bills were such wonderful things then they would be talking it up. As of this writing I haven’t them say anything from it. Even the President got slammed yesterday from a staunch supporter.

  112. NoMas Says:

    Occasionally, “normal” people have money problems that spin out of control. We fix it as best we can and move on. By inference, Klein is accusing all of have similar problems of being deadbeats. If you have money problems, the Democratic party has proclaimed you unfit for public service. The party of the “little people” indeed.

    Where are the advertisements heralding Klein’s achievements?

  113. zakir Says:

    the internet explore is can,t work and show the certificate error i say the solution of the questiom

  114. zakir Says:

    link problem

  115. Bien Says:

    Why would a politician need to dig up dirt on their opponent if their campaign was upstanding and honorable. I wonder what kind of dirt can be dug up on Klein. Any skeletons in his closet ?

  116. Bien Says:

    Besides, who hasen’t been audited by the IRS and owed money or had credit card debt that needed to be caught up on. I thought these were American values !!!!

  117. Janet McCollom Says:

    If the Dems are not bright enough to remove a SS# from a document before sending it out to 10,000 households how can they be trusted with our national security documents? Just saying….

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