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What do Glenn Beck’s rally and the Ground Zero mosque have in common?

by George Bennett | August 30th, 2010
AP photo of crowd for Saturday's Restoring Honor rally in Washington.

AP photo of crowd for Saturday's Restoring Honor rally in Washington.

Palm Beach County activist and charter school founder Joseph Bernadel says Glenn Beck had the right to hold Saturday’s massive Restoring Honor rally at the Lincoln Memorial. He just objects to the “political theater” of holding it on the anniversary of Martin Luther King’s “I Have A Dream” speech at the same spot.

In that respect, Bernadel sounds a little like critics of the proposed Ground Zero mosque in New York. Foes of the project generally say they don’t question Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf’s right to build an Islamic center on private property, but they question the sensitivity of putting it near the site where Islamists killed 2,700 people at the World Trade Center.

Not everyone sees the parallel. Rev. Al Sharpton has defended the mosque, but protested Beck’s rally Saturday.

To read about some local reactions to the Beck event, click here.

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43 Responses to “What do Glenn Beck’s rally and the Ground Zero mosque have in common?”

  1. Shaun Says:

    Food for thought…Do you think Al Sharpton would defend the KKK’s right to hold meetings at the hotel MLK was murdered at? Or would he say that although they “legally” can do it, it should not happen because of what it would symbolize?

  2. Paul Says:

    What bothers me most about the criticism of Mr. Beck is that it seems so unfounded. “Restoring Honor” discredits Dr. King … how? Criticising it advances Dr. King’s cause … how?

    As for those that don’t like where the Mosque is being built – that’s why we need constitutionally protected rights – so the bigots can’t control those that are different. Even though they try, really really hard, in the name of “sensitivity”.

  3. Dune Dawg Says:

    Glen Beck is a true American hero. He and Sarah Palin both.

    I hope he decides to run for office so we can get back to some solid honest Republican legislating.

    When Sarah accepts the nomination for President I know she will have a place in her cabinet for Beck. Possibly Secretary of State.

    Amazing how the economy went south under BARAMA and his thug machine.

    We need to get back to the Bush days and restore our honor and economy

  4. V Says:

    It was bad enough when this country lowered itself to the point of puting members of the bu$h family in power; to see the likes of Glen Beck and Sarah Palin rising to these heights is disgusting.

  5. pd Says:

    dune dawg, you must be joking? get back to the bush days? the economy was in the toilet long before the election of obama. it was the bush era that plunged this country into near depression. it was bush lack of control and restriction that allowed wall street to plunder your economy. get real and get the facts. it was an emergency session of congress under bush that decided to implement the bailouts… before the election of obama.

  6. Christy Says:

    I think Dune Dawg is a parody. Only not a funny one. I’m conservative and cannot stand Beck, Palin, Bachmann etc. I like sanity.

  7. Panhandle Says:

    More and more this guy reminds me of Jim Jones the charismatic preacher who killed thousands of followers in Guyana. You’all keep drinking the koolaid.

  8. GI JOE Says:

    Why are these FAKE SOLDIERS allowed to BEG at all the busy intersections? This “so-called” Veterans Support Group buy fake fatiques and keep 15% of their buckets plus are paid an hourly wage.The parent company out of Ft. Lauderdale and New York are listed under http://www.guidestar.org that checks “chariteies” financial records: they give less than 30% of what they take in to vets.Why are they allowed to run a “BUSINESS” begging on street corners???????

  9. Dr. Phil Says:

    MLK’s relative was there supporting Beck so I think the liberal negative spin is just that.

  10. SuperSoul Says:

    As soon as y’all finish protesting the Mosque, come join me at the South Carolina State Capitol and let’s make them take down that damned Confederate Battle Flag.

  11. samsiouxsie Says:

    The MESSAGE of the Beck/Palin rally is EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED! It does not matter if you do not like them. We NEED to get back to the GOOD of our roots…the basis of our Republic.

  12. I Agree Says:

    The situations are almost identical. Beck had the right to do what he did and the mosque can legally be built where they want. However, both are in poor taste.

    I am a fiscal / political conservative, but I really don’t understand Beck and the FOX crew when they start chanting about religion and how there isn’t enough “God” in the country. If there were truly interested in the constitution, there would be no room in their political rhetoric for religion. The two should be mutually exclusive in this country.

    Sharpton has always been a source of contradiction so I, like many, simply ignore him. He is a meaningless little man that has no bearing on either situation.

  13. Ben Says:

    What do they have in common?

    Neither are wanted here in the U.S., nevermind New York City.

    The women that follow both look better with a veil over the face.

  14. Cindy Reynolds Says:

    In reading some of the comments about the economy, I have to say that Obahma did not start the chain of events that has happened in our country, in fact he was not president at that time when these things started to happened because Bush was president when it all started heading south. I am Republican and have been one for years but I cannot stand it when people point fingers at the wrong ones. As for Palin and Beck, I am not a fan of them either because I see it is all rhetoric what they are saying. People wise up this is about making people rich by continuing to stay in the media like Rush, Beck, Palin, Sharpton, and other nay sayers. Let us get back to real values with real people who are actually doing it for the good of the people and not for fame.

  15. Reality Says:

    They say the Beck/Palin/Tea party crowd is diverse but I saw not ONE minority face in the crowd pics from Beck’s rally. Sure they paraded MLK’s “relative” on the stage (forget that MLK’s SON was across town against them). Maybe there were a couple of other token minorities on stage, but what did the people in the crowd look like? Seems to me these are just the people who lost the election not being able to take direction from a minority President. Its the truth. Its the very same reason why you typically don’t see a Black preacher with white congregants. Racism is a cancer that people need to recognize. The inability of many whites to take direction from a minority leader is indicative of the cancer of racism and its the driving force behind the “we want OUR country back” movement (as if its not everybody’s country).

    America is no worse off now than we were 19 months ago and in fact, signs are, things are slowly getting better. Yet according to these folks, we are turning socialist/communist/fascist all because we want to stop wars and spend the treasure on Americans. I Wonder how many attendees are/were firemen or cops or teachers or retirees collecting benefits from these “socialist” practices? Hypocrites! You lost the election…GET OVER IT!!

  16. RealAngst Says:

    What do they have in common? Not a damn thing.

  17. I Agree Says:

    Reality,

    I agree with some of your thoughts, but you must realize racism is all around. Yes, there are white racists, but there are plenty of black ones too. For example, anyone that assumes white people don’t like Obama because he is black seems to me to be expressing a racist opinion. Racism is a problem that many people (Al Sharpton among them) have a vested interest in perpetuating, so I doubt we will ever see it go away.

    Also, in my opinion, we are definitely worse off than we were 19 mos. ago, as home values continue to plunge, people have been unemployed for 19 months longer, we spent a trillion dollar on “stimulus” with no lasting effect, we have a deficit that has ballooned and we have an insane healthcare law that was passed which we can’t afford. I don’t blame Obama for the position we started in, but I find his approach to fixing it completely invalid. From spending money on “stimulus” that wasn’t stimulating, to bailing out car companies, to forcing through healthcare “reform” when most people don’t want it, to his ridiculous anti-business rhetoric, he has done nothing to help solve the problem and plenty to make it worse and extend it. Those opinions have nothing to do with racism and everything to do with his performance. Anyone that can’t look at his performance with a critical eye is not looking closely enough.

  18. SAJ Says:

    So many on the left are objecting to the Beck rally, which is their right. I would like to see one of the icons of the left Keith Olbermann or John Stewart hold a counter rally to see if they can draw a similar sized crowd. I think that is what eats at the left; the fact a man they dislike can draw a 100,000 plus.

  19. InfidelHere Says:

    Oh please…the mosque issue is a whole differant story.

    Use some logic and do I say it? “Faieness”. There should be no mosque near Ground Zero in New York so long as there are no churches or synagogues in Saudi Arabia. The time for double standards that allow Islamists to behave aggressively toward us while they demand our weakness and submission is over.

    The proposed “Cordoba House” overlooking the World Trade Center site — where a group of islamic jihadists killed over 3000 Americans and destroyed one of our most famous landmarks — is a test of the timidity, passivity and historic ignorance of American elites. For example, most of them don’t understand that “Cordoba House” is a deliberately insulting term. It refers to Cordoba, Spain — the capital of Muslim conquerors who symbolized their victory over the Christian Spaniards by transforming a church there into the world’s third-largest mosque complex.

    Today, some of the Mosque’s backers insist this term is being used to “symbolize interfaith cooperation” when, in fact, every Islamist in the world recognizes Cordoba as a symbol of Islamic conquest. It is a sign of their contempt for Americans and their confidence in our historic ignorance that they would deliberately insult us this way.

    Those Islamists and their apologists who argue for “religious toleration” are arrogantly dishonest. They ignore the fact that more than 100 mosques already exist in New York City. Meanwhile, there are no churches or synagogues in all of Saudi Arabia. In fact no Christian or Jew can even enter Mecca.

    And they lecture us about tolerance.

    If the people behind the Cordoba House were serious about religious toleration, they would be imploring the Saudis, as fellow Muslims, to immediately open up
    Mecca to all and immediately announce their intention to allow non-Muslim houses of worship in the Kingdom. They should be asked by the news media if they would be willing to lead such a campaign.

    We have not been able to rebuild the World Trade Center in nine years. Now we are being told a 13-story, $100 million megamosque will be built within a year overlooking the site of the most devastating surprise attack in American history.

    Finally where is the money coming from? The people behind the Cordoba House refuse to reveal all their funding sources.

    America is experiencing an Islamist cultural-political offensive designed to undermine and destroy our civilization. Sadly, too many of our elites are the willing apologists for those who would destroy them if they could.

    No mosque.

    No self deception.

    No surrender.

    The time to take a stand is now — at this site on this issue.

  20. I Agree Says:

    Infidel,

    Unfortunately, your arguments are hollow…

    We live by different laws in this country than they do in the middle east. The lack of churches and synagogues there has nothing to do with religious rights here. The number of mosques in NY has nothing to do with whether or not another should be built.

    Unless and until we are ready to restrict ALL religions, I don’t see any argument for singling out one religion, including 9/11. Not all muslims are terrorists, and we are not a “Christian nation” even if you or other people think so. You either believe in the constitution and freedom of religion or you don’t.

    Is it in poor taste for them to open it where they are? Absolutely. However, I suspect they will regret it when parades of people like you to show up everyday to protest.

  21. Laura Says:

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  22. Sam Says:

    “I agree”, i respect your post expect you said it’s “Poor taste” for “them” to put a mosque there. Why?? It’s 2 NY blocks away from the WTC site, it is NOT on the site. There are strip clubs on Park51. There was ALREADY a mosque there? There are hundreds of Muslims in need of a place to pray. Where would you like them to pray, on the street? Those Muslims in need of a place of worship have as much to do with 9/11 as Oklahoma City churches have to do with Timothy McVeigh.

  23. I Agree Says:

    I think it is poor taste because it is obviously a location that will incite negative feelings from people in NY – right, wrong or indifferent. There are plenty of places to locate the mosque. You can’t tell me this is the only possible site.

    Like I said, I think they have every right to locate it there, but if I were making the decision, I would locate it elsewhere. Doing something you know is going to upset others, when there are alternatives available, is not a way to live together harmoniously. If you want to be a member of a community, it is usually best to consider the feelings of others in the community, as opposed to doing everything within your rights.

    If everyone lived their lives by what they have the right to do, rather than the golden rule, there would be no such thing as courtesy, friendships, neighborhoods or any of the other things that help us live together in reasonable harmony. Doing something you know will piss off someone else is in poor taste as far as I am concerned. So, go ahead and do it, but understand, there will be some people that are really upset and others (like me) that wonder why in the world they would do such a thing, knowing it will result in conflict.

  24. LINDA Says:

    Wow, I guess listening to Western media has really misled me on who the victims were. Consider me now educated.

    IN CASE YOU HAVE NOT HEARD ABOUT THIS.
    READ CAREFULLY………..
    This is so “Unbelievable”….
    In Houston , Texas

    Harwin Central Mall: The very first store that you come to when you walk from the lobby of the building into the shopping area
    Had a sign posted on their door. The shop is run by Muslims.
    It said:

    “We will be closed on Friday, September 11, 2009 to commemorate the martyrdom of Imam Ali”

    Imam Ali flew one of the planes into the twin towers.

    Nice huh?
    This explains why they want to build a “memorial” at ground zero. They have made him a hero and are making it their religious holiday. AND OUR “LEADER” IS SUPPORTING THIS!!!!!! America, if we don’t wake up and stop placing “political correctness” above our own American beleifs, we are going to disappear. An American should be required to become an American and leave all of their old beleifs in their old country, otherwise just go back to their own country. The USA is now become so diluted that we have lost all of our original standards that our country was founded on. I am definately NOT against immigration, but it is necessary to become true Americans if they wish to live here. The USA will not survive with such divided alliances.

  25. We Are Getting Down To Two Sides Now Says:

    Yep! We’s narrowing it down now! Two kinds of people regardless of their race. We have one kind that wants to see American go back to the days it was the land of the Free and the Brave! Then we have the leeches who don’t give a damn about anything as long as it’s free and they are brave enough to demand everything free they have coming!
    It appears we are just mildly past the tipping point! One big plunge and leeches won’t have anything left to suck on! That’s the goal of Obama and those pledged to destroy the USA from within, and they have plenty of stupid to help!

  26. Scott Says:

    Hello Americans -

    First, I must say that this dialog is great… exactly what America is all about.

    Mosque Location: Hey… the Constitution guarantees we could place a Mosque on top of an Indian burial ground, or a Japanese Shinto shrine at the memorial in Pearl Harbor. Would that be the right thing to do? If no Mosque is required in that place, why put it there?

    Restoring Honor Rally: Forget about Beck. Focus on Honor and the spiritual principles that guide and underpin our country. This is a great opportunity to reclaim our heritage, and is most likely why Martin Luther King’s niece agreed to speak there.

  27. We Are Getting Down To Two Sides Now Says:

    LINDA – A LOT OF THESE NUTS ARE CLAIMING THE NAME ON THE NOTICE WAS NOT A PILOT OF A 9/11 PLANE! TO ME IT DOESN’T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE THEY ARE STILL CELEBRATING A DAY THEY KILLED THOUSANDS OF OUR INNOCENT PEOPLE IN THE NAME OF THIER SICK SO CALL ED RELIGION!

    Articles regarding Harwin Central Mall

    http://www.tcunation.com/forum/topics/the-politically-incorrect?commentId=2476373%3AComment%3A312699

  28. We Are Getting Down To Two Sides Now Says:

    Its pretty obvious the sign was there! The store owner admitted it and is an admitted Muslim! He claims The name of the person he was closing to celebrate was however dead over 1700 years and not a 9/11 pilot. The way these dudes recycle njames who knows? The irony here is that most normal Americans view Islam for what it is! A violent culture!

    http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/07/muslim-store-owner-harassed-due-to-ignorance/

  29. LINDA Says:

    Yes, violent, for sure

  30. LINDA Says:

    http://www.tangle.com/view_video.php?viewkey=0861ff3eabea1ceb73e4

    take a look at this video

  31. zack12 Says:

    I am sick & tired of all this white supremacy garbage. I thought we leaned tolerance after the civil rights movement in the 60′s, but apparently we have learned nothing. I for 1 have no desire to go back to riots in the streets (yes I am old enough to remember that) and assignations etc. People like Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin should be wearing white robes. As a Mormon, I realize that he has been told over and over that there is only 1 God… but really? Do all of you really, honestly beleive that? Do you really think that anyone who is not a christian, or is maybe a muslim, or a jew, a buddist, or whatever is less than you? I am sure that Joseph Smith is probably smiling in his grave because when was he ever able to assembly this many followers at one time? This country had better lighten up & quit this before someone from the muslim community rises up like Dr. Masrtin Luther King did and says “No More.” NO ONE is better than anyone else just because of the color of their skin or their beliefs. This is nothing more than hate & bigotry all in the name of God!!

  32. Panhandle Says:

    zack12, Right ON Excellent post.

  33. LINDA Says:

    ZACK, I did not mention race one single time. Why do people have to bring up that issue? YES we are all people and it does NOT matter what color your or my skin, hair or eyes are or what god you choose to worship!!! That is YOUR choice, that is what America is all about!!! Who cares about that? I don’t even see differences in that respect anymore. Americans are Americans all from other countries, all different races, religions, etc. coming here for the American dream to earn freedom. What I am against is people from other countries planning to anialiate us just because we are Americans. When someone wants to kill me just because I don’t beleive what they do, then I become a little “against them” to say the least. I am sorry, but I choose not to tolerate someone while they are planning to kill me. Don’t be so naieve to think this is not happening FOR REAL!

  34. GT Says:

    Jesus said that he is the only way to God. Like it or not it’s in the bible.
    By the way one, of you is right. The crash started before Obama. It was Barney Frank and Chris Dodd who were most responsible. That’s also history but I guess you don’t like that either.

  35. zack12 Says:

    You say that Jesus is the only way to God. It’s in the Bible? Really. So I guess that as far as you’re concerned people who are Jews, Muslims, Buddists & any other religion will not find God. Gee, the God I know is loving and accepting of all people. Even judgemental and intolerant people like yourself. As I see it, the right wing has gone so far off from what Jesus really taught that it is nothing more than a thin veil of its former self. All of you are following these “leaders” from either the pulpit or Fox News and sccepting what they “preach” blindly and without question or doubt. No one thinks for themselves anymore, you just sit and listen and foolishly believe. Remember, your Bible says “Satan will appear as an angel of light and multitudes will follow him” Think Glenn Beck, who by the way also said all black babies should be aborted. Yeah, this is your good, loving, Chrisitan, non racist man you are all flocking to.

  36. Mike R Says:

    …. That Fox news is footing the bill for both the mosque and beck’s rally?

  37. Paul Says:

    When someone wants to kill me just because I don’t beleive what they do, then I become a little “against them” to say the least.
    ==================
    Are you claiming that the people who are trying to build their Mosque in New York have attempted murder? If so, you should take your evidence of this crime and contact the appropriate prosecutors. If not, you should just shut up.

  38. GT Says:

    Jesus died on the the cross for the sins of all men. Yes God is loving. Jesus was and is Jewish. Abraham is the the father of the muslems as well as the Jews. Jesus is also alive. What will you do? Who was He if He was not God…..a teacher a rabbi a good man, who went about doing miracles, or perhaps a lunatic who claimed to be God.
    What about His diciples? They died for what they believed in. Would they have given their lives for a lie? God is loving so loving that He suffered and died for you and me. He is also just and must punish sin. Yes indeed the road is narrow that leads to eternal life and few are they who take it. There is only one truth.

  39. Reggie Greene / TheLogistician Says:

    What’s more interesting from our perspective about this Glenn Beck phenomenon is that “The Folks in Control,” however one might characterize them in terms of race, status, class, wealth, geographic location or whatever, allowed our current situation to develop over arguably the last 50 – 100 years, and now there are complaints by a vocal group of concerned citizens.

    Is it possible, as postulated by some, that the liberal, conservative, progressive, corporate and banking interests, and libertarian POWER FORCES in our society are laughing all the way to the bank, and that we minions with little money and power (the members of the Institute for Applied Common Sense included) are the ones complaining? And that because of new technological advances in communication and the power of the Internet, the voice of the minions is now being disseminated with greater force, essentially saying, “Stop! Enough is enough!”?

    Is this arguably populist movement somewhat similar to the one led by “the Great Commoner,” William Jennings Bryan at the end of the 19th and beginning of the 20th Centuries?

    Is what we are experiencing simply the most vocal expression of the perhaps 80% of we citizens at the bottom of the heap?

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