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Full-body airport scans? Reps. Hastings, Rooney, Wexler opposed them in June vote

by George Bennett | December 29th, 2009

Full-body imaging might have detected that Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab had stuffed his underwear with explosives before he boarded a Detroit-bound flight on Christmas day.

But a considerable bipartisan majority of U.S. House members are on record opposing the widespread use of such scans in a vote that saw privacy concerns trump security measures. In June, the House voted 310-to-118 for an amendment by Rep. Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah, that would have prohibited whole-body imaging as a “primary screening” method at airports. The amendment died in the Senate.

Chaffetz’s amendment would have allowed such scans as a “secondary” screening method, but passengers would be given the option of a pat-down search in lieu of whole-body imaging and the Transportation Security Administration would have been banned from “storing, transferring, or copying any images” from the scans.

Local U.S. Reps. Alcee Hastings, D-Miramar; Tom Rooney, R-Tequesta; and Robert Wexler, D-Boca Raton, supported the ban on whole-body imaging. U.S. Rep. Ron Klein, D-Boca Raton, voted against the Chaffetz amendment.

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58 Responses to “Full-body airport scans? Reps. Hastings, Rooney, Wexler opposed them in June vote”

  1. jg Says:

    Flying is not a right. No scan…no fly. What’s the big deal? This last guy would have been stopped.

  2. Investigative Reporter Says:

    This does not surprise me….each and everyone of them took money from muslims non citizens…..through the Turkish Colation of America

  3. Investigative Reporter Says:

    I think that any politician that takes money from non USA citizen foreigners needs to be TAKEN OUT of office permanently…..they are selling out the USA

  4. Jorja Says:

    And how much radiation does this expose us to?

  5. hedlykarok Says:

    What’s a turkey colation?

  6. mel Says:

    JG-The problem is radiation. Duh. A cat scan has a large dose, can you image a whole body scan?? And you want a TSA associate with no radiation experience to scan you and handle that large of a dose? common sense people. Sounds like a great idea, but theres always a reason why its not being done.

  7. fastfinger Says:

    Not all Muslims are terrorists. But all terrorists are Muslims. Adopt the Israeli method and target high risk suspecs. Please stop trying to be politically correct. Saving lives is more important than saving face!

  8. Kevin Says:

    Terrorism and Muslim do not go hand and hand. Remember Oklahoma City? Remember bombs being sent through the mail? Not Muslims. ANYONE can be a terrorist, so to say we should target Muslims is absolutely absurd.

  9. Pete Says:

    Those of you who are afraid of the radiation, do you not think this issue was examined. You can be exposed to 5 rem per year in an occupatinal seeting! You do not know what you are tali]king about.

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  11. John Sprague Says:

    Several airports have full body scans. In cases that you have a replacement hip or knee it is much faster and less invasive than the regular pat down for those of us that set off the alarm every time at the screening gate you walk through. It also insures that it is safer for the airplane and its occupants. if the intent is security. The issue of selective is a problem however as anyone that is truly carrying explosives etc would elect to use the normal pat down lane and not the full body scan. The scan is also a second in each direction not minutes as in cat scans, if radiation is an issue.

  12. Robert Says:

    So this machine placed at U.S. airports would have stop this man from boarding the plane at the amsterdam airport?

  13. Chris Says:

    Profiling needs to happen. When the TSA is pulling aside 75 year old women to check them to be politically correct that is a problem. Or we could continue like we are doing and go down the tubes because of political correctness.

  14. dennyp Says:

    so now they have to spend hundreds of millions on privacy invasion ? who is going to pay for all the international airports machines? I agree with fastfinger, the selective, profiling like Israel does will stop 99.5 %of airplane incidents without having the machines. How many bombings have been done by non-muslims, or demons from arab countries ?

  15. Goofball Says:

    I go through the scanner all the time and my teeth have never been whiter and every time I get close to a flourescent bulb it lights up.

  16. John I. Rogers Says:

    We should have the machines and use them!! Our citizens deserve the highest level of protection available! If some ar offended, so be it! We seem to kowtow to the minority of objectors and the majority suffers. How soon can they be installed???

  17. G Says:

    Robert Says:
    December 29th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
    So this machine placed at U.S. airports would have stop this man from boarding the plane at the amsterdam airport?
    —————————–

    Your absolutely right…. Its pointless if terrorist are boarding flights that enter the U.S.

    Aren’t there devices that detect explosive material by smell? We could attach those to the entrance of all planes domestic/international flying to and from the US…Of course it may not matter if it is hidden inside his body…..

    Point is body scans would have done nothing to stop this guy.

  18. Steve Says:

    These systems use low energy and very low doses of radiation. It is very tightly controlled by government standards. The earth and sun both exposes us to similar low doses all day long. One scan is less than about one hour of the natural radiation you would get while you are asleep.

  19. Bart Morrison Says:

    I worked for the airlines for 30 some odd years – profiling along with magnatometers and baggage search is the
    still the best weapon against terrorist threats. Also if the no-fly list and
    authorities had listened to the warning that was given, this would not happen. I have witnessed some of the horseing around by security agents, and I don`t respect their integrity in the use of full body scan. Does anyone remember when flying was a pleasure and something to look forward to! Now the passengers are subjected to abuse from the time they cross the curb at the terminal….in the cabin and at baggage claim. What a shame….

  20. krisp Says:

    How about everyone being stripped naked (NO UNDERWEAR OR BRAS) at the airports, given a poncho and not allowed to carry anything on board but an ID. everything else will be locked in cargo hold until plane lands. Then we’ll give flight attendants guns to walk up and down the isles and if anyone talks or moves they can be considered a threat and shot in the head. When will us americans wake up and stop being afraid and take this country back. And who the hell is letting these terrorists into this country??? Who is giving all these terrorists permission to fly here?? Perhaps its all a setup by the government to keep us afraid so our rights can be chipped away.

  21. Full Body Scanner Images | SJR Says:

    [...] Full-body Airport Scans? Reps. Hastings, Rooney, Wexler Opposed JG-The problem is radiation. Duh. A cat scan has a large dose, can you image a whole body scan?? And you want a TSA associate with no radiation experience to scan you and handle that large of a dose? common sense people. [...]

  22. EMB Says:

    Why not strip searches? A good cavity search never hurt anyone. Prostate exams can be done free everytime you fly.

  23. Frankie Says:

    How can a guy caught trying to bomb an airliner be “alleged”, when everyone saw him do it? Why is he given the rights of an American? Was he not a foreigner trying to kill 300 Americans?
    Obama cares more about rights and privacy than the safety of the people he is supposed to be protecting? Closing Guantanimo is a crazy move. Trying terrorists in New York is even crazier…wake up America! You can keep the change….

  24. Flying the hostile skies Says:

    Contrary to what jg states, the manufacturer of the scanners will not guarantee that explosives, such as was carried by the idiot in the Detroit attempt , will be detected by the scanners.

    In addition, there have been reports that terrorist groups train with scanning equipment to determine how best to deceive them.

    The only real way to prevent people from taking weapons on a plane is to:
    1) Not allow any carry-on luggage.
    2) All checked luggage is hand searched.
    3) All passengers have to strip (down to their birthday suite) and submit to an internal body cavity search.
    5) After the search, all passengers are to don, TSA issued, orange jump suites prior to boarding.
    6) Passenger clothing is hand searched and bagged prior to being loaded onto the plane.
    7) Passengers can claim their clothing and change upon arrival.

    Have a safe and happy flight.

  25. VerumMos Says:

    Bomber Had No Passport….Helped To Board Plane By “Sharp-Dressed Man”…In Black???

    December 27, 2009

    A passenger who boarded Northwest Airlines Flight 253 in Amsterdam with attempted plane bomber Umar Farouk Abdul Mutallab says the would-be terrorist had no passport and was aided by a sharp-dressed man who claimed Mutallab was a Sudanese refugee, just one of a plethora of startling inconsistencies surrounding an incident that has led to ramped up security and increased levels of harassment in airports.
    http://www.dailypaul.com/node/119717

  26. Generalizations get you nowhere Says:

    fastfinger, you apparently have a selective and short memory span.

    Name: Timothy McVeigh
    Citizenship: US
    Race: White
    Religious affiliation: ‘Christian’
    Number of victims: 168

    Name: Terry Nichols
    Citizenship: US
    Race: White
    Religious affiliation: ‘Christian’
    Number of victims: 168

  27. Eric Says:

    30000 feet up but you want privacy? No hell no! Thats the last thing people need in such a serious situation. They need bracelets to let the staff know when they are out of their seat. That and whatever else. What the hell have you got to hide? Show it now or they will find it later scattered along with burning remains.

  28. It's all for show Says:

    http://www.cnn.com/2009/OPINION/12/29/schneier.air.travel.security.theater/index.html

  29. Heather Says:

    In the interest of being politcally correct and not offending a small group, we just go ahead and infringe on everyone. That’s insane. I’ve been stopped for extra screening several times. When was the last time an American, female 26 year old tried to blow up a plane? Never! And like someone else pointed out, this will do nothing for the flights that depart out of other countries

  30. krisp Says:

    HMMM, The government needs to protect us while flying? but what about the airlines? Oh thats right , their planes are insured and they capped a dollar amout on every passenger, what the hell is there responsibility for providing safe travel? When will they be saying this last scare has made them broke and they need another bailout.

  31. ELC Says:

    I would think that our safety outweighs
    the embarrassment of seeing us through a
    scan. If this guy had a full body scan-
    everything he was carrying would have
    been identified and he would never have
    made it on the plane. Political Correctness has gone way to far.The idiots who believe in it should sit on
    a plane with the terriorists and pray
    they don’t blow up in the sky. As for the airlines and Politicans-all they care about is the dollar signs in front
    of their faces-the American Public means
    nothing to them.

  32. SWK Says:

    It’s only too intrusive until one of your family members is killed; then it becomes a good idea.

  33. Toni Says:

    No! to full body scans. What failed was a security system that became too complacent in foreign countries, especially underdeveloped countries!

    There were numerous indications from paying cash, to no luggage checked that were IGNORED! The guy was on a WATCH list.

    And now there’s talk of full body scans?!?! That’s an absolute INVASION of privacy. Let’s make sure those congressmen and women get them too! Hope they some how leak N Pelosi’s.

    Funny how the government can say that CAT scans can cause cancer but let’s do a full body scan everytime you travel.

  34. VerumMos Says:

    THE SHARP-DRESSED MAN

    Kurt Haskell and his wife, who were witnesses on board Northwest Airlines Flight 253 saw; Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab receiving assistance from a well-dressed wealthy-looking Indian man, at the boarding gate in Amsterdam. Haskell told CNN that the accused bomber appeared strikingly ‘poor’ next to the well-dressed man. According to Haskell, that man (Sharp-Dressed) did the talking for him, explaining to the flight personnel at the gate, that Abdulmutallab needed to board without a passport, claiming that he was a Sudanese refugee.

    CNN Airs Witness Testimony that ‘Well Dressed’ Indian accomplice helped Abdulmutallab board without passport and that man on plane filmed entire flight and bombing attempt.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAtK7FFDukQ

  35. joansmith@bs.com Says:

    HEY DUMMIES???? There are no terrorist!
    Never where Al-CIA-ad…STAGED HELLO?

    Its all over the internet…GET EDUCATED

  36. joansmith@bs.com Says:

    AL-CIA-ADA
    HELLO???
    EARTH???
    ANYBODY HOME???
    STAGED
    HELLO???
    NO TERRORIST???
    THEY DON’T EXIST!!
    HELLO???
    EARTH???
    ANYBODY HOME???
    I guess no ones home….

  37. joansmith@bs.com Says:

    WAKE UP!!!
    HELLO???
    THERE ARE NO TERRORIST!
    HELLO???
    EARTH???
    ANYBODY HOME???
    EARTH??
    AL-CIA-ADA!!
    STAGED!!
    watch the interview with the eye witness
    AL-CIA-ADA
    THERE ARE NO TERRORIST
    HELLO??
    EARTH??
    ANYBODY HOME??
    I guess there really is nobody here

  38. joansmith@bs.com Says:

    Hello??
    EARTH???
    9-11 7-7 Madrid
    STAGED
    AL-CIA-ADA
    HELLO??
    EARTH??
    ANYBODY THERE??
    Damn where is everyone?

  39. Jeff Says:

    To me this sounds like just an example of the government exploiting a real threat in order to push overly-invasive measures. Its just like the Patriot Act after 9/11, something needed to be done, but they took advantage of people’s fear to go way too far. This has been something that has bothered me alot recently, so Ive been following this type of stuff closely. I found a website http://www.littlebrotherprivacy.com that talks about this kind of stuff. There is some pretty interesting stuff on there, and I think it will make you think twice before you start signing away your rights in the name of defense from terrorism.

  40. VerumMos Says:

    Terrorism is the war of the poor, and war is the terrorism of the rich.
    Sir Peter Ustinov – 1921-2004

    The Taxpayer.
    That’s someone who works for the federal government but doesn’t have to
    take a civil service examination.
    Ronald Reagan

    Government’s first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives.
    Ronald Reagan – 1911-2004 – 40th US President.

    Man has no right to kill his brother. It is no excuse that he does so in uniform: he only adds the infamy of servitude to the crime of murder.
    Percy Bysshe Shelley – 1792-1822 – Poet

  41. Carol Says:

    Mel, I’m with you. What about the radiation levels that one would be exposed to with these scans? Cancer isn’t just a buzzword. Where is the research information about this?

  42. Carol Says:

    ….and as a person with a leukemia that is “radiation induced”, I don’t trust “government standards”.

  43. John Samson Says:

    Freedom is dangerous. However, if given a chance for freedom, many of the best and brightest in the world will flock to it. There must be a reason why; yet, there are those of us that will forsake the will of our ancestors and cede that freedom to a mob authority because it suits their purpose of control. I would rather stand for freedom and take the chance of death than to be subjected to control. GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH.

  44. VerumMos Says:

    Information Minister–Hassan al-Lozy said; the U.S. never shared its suspicions about Abdulmutallab, with Yemen–”We didn’t get any notice from the Americans, to put this man on a list,” al-Lozy said. “America should have told Yemen about this man, as they have of others.”

    Yemen’s Foreign Ministry said Monday: Abdulmutallab had a valid visa to the United States, which he had visited in the past.
    http://www.cbs8.com/Global/story.asp?S=11741887

  45. VerumMos Says:

    Governments constantly choose between telling lies and fighting wars, with the end result always being the same. One will always lead to the other.
    Thomas Jefferson – 1743-1826 – 3rd US President (1801-1809)

    It is part of the general pattern of misguided policy, that our country is now geared to an arms economy, which was bred in an artificially induced psychosis of war hysteria, and nurtured upon an incessant propaganda of fear.
    General Douglas MacArthur – 1880-1964

  46. meghan Says:

    hello my name is meghan iam very unhappy
    you think as a 19year old girl getting redy to go see my best friend she lives in hawaii she is in the army i was going to go see her for her birthday and so then i would get to see her befor she goes to iqar but sad-lee i cant go one iam not have someone touch me that i dont even know and two i have had nukalert testing done last year and my radiation leves were high so what about the people like me who dont the best of health meghan

  47. meghan Says:

    hello gays there bigger things then that
    and there people to let them be happy
    we can not juged only god can would’tn you be mad if someone told you you cant married the person your in love with and there are way bigger things going on and Americans are not idiots we help everyone out like good americans should

  48. kitty Says:

    What about dogs?

  49. Karen Says:

    It won’t work. The man didn’t have a passport but he was allowed to fly. He was on a watch list and they let him fly. His father warned the CIA and they let him fly. Explosives in a body cavity won’t show up in a body cavity. This is another scam. This was probably govt.ops.You are being tricked,once again. This is about the govt. tightening their grip on our freedoms incrementally and money. The next step will be wrist tasers. That is already on the news. Are you slaves going to take that?

  50. VerumMos Says:

    Making “Islam” synonymous with “terrorism”.

    Dec 30, 2009

    No matter how many times you see it, the capacity for people to believe what they want to believe, rather than what is actually true, is astounding — and those who want to depict Islam as the ultimate evil seem to grant themselves special license to live that way:
    “And we’re still left with a terrible problem for a free and multicultural society: Even though 99.999 percent of Muslims abhor attacks on innocent civilians on moral and theological grounds, 100 percent of attempted terrorist attacks on the U.S. (and, with the exception of the Basques in Spain, terrorists attacks on all Western nations) since the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing have been committed by people claiming to act in the name of Islam – Jeffrey Weiss”.
    Compare that claim to reality: http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2009/12/30/terrorism/index.html

  51. VerumMos Says:

    Afghanistan is Not the Right War.

    If history has taught us anything, it is that we need to beware those populist politicians who claim to be men of peace by nature but men of war by necessity. The most violent wars this planet has ever seen, the most brutal regimes that have ever sought to repress their own citizens, the most genocidal schemes have always been nurtured under the leadership of politicians who offer war, violence and domination as a way of achieving peace.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qebmfFx6Zpw

  52. VerumMos Says:

    Friday, January 01, 2010

    Latest Story–By Kurt Haskell

    The Man In Orange and the Merry Go Round of Ron Smith/U.S. Customs-

    http://haskellfamily.blogspot.com/2010/01/latest-story-by-kurt-haskell.html

  53. VerumMos Says:

    Kurt Haskell on Alex Jones Tv {Sunday Edition} 1/2: FBI Still Protecting Plane Bombers Accomplice!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDdF3xkD6SI

  54. Carey Burns Says:

    You are a very smart person! Great post indeed.

  55. VerumMos Says:

    Could it have to do with profits, from bombs and bullets, rather than our INTELLIGENCE?

    After all; the U.S., Military Industrial WAR Complex, was the one who supplied the arsenal of weapons to be deployed on the peoples of Yemen, and done so by the Saudi Military…great customers and friends of the UNITED STATES…military sales of WMDs – Weapons of Mass Destruction, is provided by the U.S., and, purchased by Saudi Arabia. Sales amounting to $40 Billion Dollars for the fiscal Year 1999, according to: Dept. of Defense in Foreign Military Sales, Foreign Military Construction Sales and Military Assistance Facts.

    Billions in Recent Yememi Investments and The Underwear Bomber’s Daddy. It’s a Small World Ain’t It?

    by Scott Creighton – Dec 30, 2009

    Correct me if I am wrong, but didn’t brave soldiers used to throw themselves on grenades back in the day to absorb the shock and therefore save their fellow soldiers. Isn’t there a saying about “throwing yourself on a grenade” to that end? So the big “terrorist” plot here is to get a small amount of PETN onboard a plane and then SIT ON IT, thus absorbing the relatively small explosion… with his ass and his 150lb body?

    That’s the “plan” that requires, as President Obama blusters, “every element of national power” to fight? I don’t think so. You gotta look a little closer than a singed pair of tightie-whities if you want to know why President Obama is going to kill more people in Yemen. I have. Take a look…

    The Link:
    http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2009/12/30/billions-in-recent-yememi-investments-and-the-underwear-bombers-daddy-its-a-small-world-aint-it/

  56. VerumMos Says:

    The very types of intelligence, which will ultimately lead to failures…continued failures of our freedoms…owing to complacency…failures in our own; intelligence gathering processes.

    “In online posts apparently by Detroit suspect, religious ideals collide”.

    Dec 29, 2009

    Nigerian accused of Christmas Day bombing, apparently turned to the INTERNET, for counseling and companionship…posting this on a forum; “lonely–never found a true Muslim friend.” And, “No one to consult, no one to support me, and I feel depressed and lonely. I do not know what to do. And then I think this loneliness leads me to other problems.”

    “Yemen ties of Northwest bomber Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab test Guantanamo plans”.

    Dec 29, 2009

    Obama’s administrations’ plans to shut down Guantánamo in Cuba, are running into new challenges, as INFORMATION BECOMES AVAILABLE about the extent of Christmas bombing suspect Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab’s ties to Yemen. Nearly half of remaining Guantánamo DETAINEES are FROM YEMEN.

    “Lieberman: Yemen will be ‘tomorrow’s war’ if pre-emptive action not taken”.

    Dec 27, 2009

    Sen. Joe Lieberman said; Yemen could be the ground of America’s NEXT overseas WAR if Washington does not take PREEMPTIVE action to root out al-Qaeda interests there.

    Preventive war was an invention of Hitler. Frankly, I would not even listen to anyone seriously that came and talked about such a thing.
    Dwight D. Eisenhower – 1890-1969 – 34th U.S. President.

  57. VerumMos Says:

    “As 2010 dawns, FCC moves toward Net neutrality rules”.

    Dec 30, 2009

    The U.S., Federal Communications Commission (FCC), in taking the first step toward creating Net Neutrality Rules, in 2009, has re-ignited a contentious debate about GOVERNMENT REGULATION of the INTERNET.

    Opponents of new Net Neutrality Rules, argue that an FCC proposal, released in October, would create intrusive, new rules, for the Internet, and would mark a major shift, in the U.S. GOVERNMENT’S generally hands-off approach, to Web regulation.

    Was Detroit Jet “TERRORIST ATTACK” staged?

    The recent failed attack on a US passenger jet, traveling from Amsterdam, to Detroit, was a set-up…provocation controlled by US intelligence. Author and journalist Webster Tarpley; stated this to RT News.

    “[The terrorist’s] father, a rich Nigerian banker, went to the U.S., Embassy in Nigeria on November 19 and said; ‘my son is in Yemen, in a terrorist camp, do something about this. Nevertheless, the son is allowed to buy a ticket in Ghana, paying cash ($2,800) for a “one-way ticket,” Tarpley said.
    http://rt.com/Best_Videos/2009-12-29/detroit-terror-act-fake.html

    Governments constantly choose between telling lies and fighting wars, with the end result always being the same. One will always lead to the other.
    Thomas Jefferson – 1743-1826 – 3rd US President (1801-1809).

    We shall have to repent in this generation, not so much for the evil deeds of the wicked people, but for the appalling silence of the good people.
    Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. – January 15, 1929 – April 4, 1968.

  58. VerumMos Says:

    “L-3 Communications of Pinellas gets $165 million contract for body scanners”.

    A defense contractor that builds body-imaging scanners at a St. Petersburg plant, is positioned to sell Uncle Sam hundreds of machines for U.S. airports, after the Christmas bomb scare, on a Northwest Airlines flight approaching Detroit.

    “Group slams Chertoff on scanner promotion”.

    Since the attempted bombing of a US airliner on Christmas Day, former HOMELAND SECURITY secretary Michael Chertoff has given dozens of media interviews touting the need for the federal government to buy more full-body scanners for airports.

    What he has made little mention of, is that the CHERYOFF GROUP, his security consulting agency, includes a client that manufactures the machines.

    “Airport body scanners ‘unlikely’ to foil al-Qaeda – MP”.

    [unlikely] to detect many of the explosive devices used by terrorist groups, a Tory MP has warned.

    Ben Wallace, who used to work at defence firm QinetiQ, one of the companies making the technology, warned, it was not a “big silver bullet”.

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